JohnShez1

Cornish Chris wrote:

Who was the last manager to leave Argyle and get another job? Sturrock?

fletcher if you count Bournemouth u18 manager bit

ejh wrote:

I'm surprised Sheridan has taken the Newport job in honesty.

His CV and record has been with higher challenges and bigger clubs, and he's done reasonably well in meeting those objectives.

He must have been desperate to get back into football.

you cant afford to sty out the game for long these days. I'm sure he is going there to keep his cv uptodate while he applies for other jobs.

And if he keeps them in the league by the end of the season it will be 2 basket cases that he has worked wonders for!

The amount of shit Shez still takes from Argyle fans astounds me. Good luck Shez, no hate from this keyboard.

Coxside_Green wrote:

The amount of shit Shez still takes from Argyle fans astounds me.  Good luck Shez, no hate from this keyboard.

I'll second that!

Sheridan did well for us. Just not well enough.

He left us far stronger than we were on his arrival but with the talent he had at his disposal he ultimately under-achieved. Overall we should probably be grateful but the over-riding feeling I have is "meh". He just didn't quite fit and it never quite worked out as it might have.

That said he joins the ever-growing list of those who curried no favour with the Nooligans and, one way or another, became a target for them.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Sheridan did well for us. Just not well enough.

He left us far stronger than we were on his arrival but with the talent he had at his disposal he ultimately under-achieved. Overall we should probably be grateful but the over-riding feeling I have is "meh". He just didn't quite fit and it never quite worked out as it might have.

That said he joins the ever-growing list of those who curried no favour with the Nooligans and, one way or another, became a target for them.

I Say the exact same thing about Peter Reid for the first 6 months off his time here that with the talent he had at his disposal he ultimately under-achieved badly. Oh and before anyone mentions the admin era that didnt start till after christmas hence why i said the first 6 months. He certainly wasnt a manager good enough to do the job sheridan did for us.

Sheridan improved our league position every year i say that he did a better job than most will give him credit for simply because they just didn't like him which is another case for rewriting history to suit the agenda.
Del Bhey right now is reaping the rewards of inheriting a strong squad and ethos which he has been able to do his thing and build on solid foundations putting his mark on it. We can only hope after Del Bhey goes when ever that is the next manager is afforded the same luxury.

Sheridan isnt a manager you could say is a long term fit for any club but for 2-3 years he can certainly do a good steady job for you and be ready to hand it over to someone to push on to another level.

the guy deserves nothing but good will from argyle.

Angry wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Sheridan did well for us. Just not well enough.

He left us far stronger than we were on his arrival but with the talent he had at his disposal he ultimately under-achieved. Overall we should probably be grateful but the over-riding feeling I have is "meh". He just didn't quite fit and it never quite worked out as it might have.

That said he joins the ever-growing list of those who curried no favour with the Nooligans and, one way or another, became a target for them.

I Say the exact same thing about Peter Reid for the first 6 months off his time here that with the talent he had at his disposal he ultimately under-achieved badly. Oh and before anyone mentions the admin era that didnt start till after christmas hence why i said the first 6 months. He certainly wasnt a manager good enough to do the job sheridan did for us.

Sheridan improved our league position every year i say that he did a better job than most will give him credit for simply because they just didn't like him which is another case for rewriting history to suit the agenda.
Del Bhey right now is reaping the rewards of inheriting a strong squad and ethos which he has been able to do his thing and build on solid foundations putting his mark on it. We can only hope after Del Bhey goes when ever that is the next manager is afforded the same luxury.

Sheridan isnt a manager you could say is a long term fit for any club but for 2-3 years he can certainly do a good steady job for you and be ready to hand it over to someone to push on to another level.

the guy deserves nothing but good will from argyle.

What Angry & SFD said, 'ere 'ere

I agree with every word of Angry's post. Sheridan deserves respect from the fans.

Shez picked up a joke of a club at the bottom of the league and left it in a stable healthy position for the next fella to take the reins. He basically did a Pulis-esque job for us. It wasn't pretty at times but he was precisely what was needed in the circumstances.

His undermining by the Club President and others on the official club mouthpiece Forum was a disgrace.

^ This

For Sheridan to leave PAFC in a stable healthy position you are suggesting that he was more than incharge of a group of players that he whipped into reasonable shape.....he certainly was no more than that......beyond the changing room he had no influence on PAFC becoming more stable and healthy and that others have to be thanked for doing that.....No1 enemy James Brent must have been involved a teeny weeny bit in doing that whatever his thoughts or his motives for doing so were.

Fcol....we're talking about on field matters and team performance....have one of these

zyph wrote:

...he certainly was no more than that......beyond the changing room he had no influence on PAFC becoming more stable and healthy

I agree with that, and what's more he wasn't interested in building a club that was a stop gap. Professional footballers lead their whole life like that trapsing up and down the country. Given the bufget and the infighting, he did a very good job on the team, but that all fell apart when the players suddenly realised they were back to square one in division 4 next season.

And of course, I wouldn't say the "club" is healthy at all at present. Still a fanbase divided, no sign of any rebuild, directors back on the board from the disaster days to save it's skin........not my idea of a healthy club. The only health to be had at the club is the new manager and the players that came with him. Perhaps Derek Adams should own the club and steer it, rather than the reluctant speculator. Too much of the planet is owned by the wrong people.

zyph wrote:

For Sheridan to leave PAFC in a stable healthy position you are suggesting that he was more than incharge of a group of players that he whipped into reasonable shape.....he certainly was no more than that......beyond the changing room he had no influence on PAFC becoming more stable and healthy and that others have to be thanked for doing that.....No1 enemy James Brent must have been involved a teeny weeny bit in doing that whatever his thoughts or his motives for doing so were.

Well I was (quite obviously) referring to the playing side. That's what Shez was in charge of, players. Not property.

Czarcasm wrote:

zyph wrote:

For Sheridan to leave PAFC in a stable healthy position you are suggesting that he was more than incharge of a group of players that he whipped into reasonable shape.....he certainly was no more than that......beyond the changing room he had no influence on PAFC becoming more stable and healthy and that others have to be thanked for doing that.....No1 enemy James Brent must have been involved a teeny weeny bit in doing that whatever his thoughts or his motives for doing so were.

Well I was (quite obviously) referring to the playing side. That's what Shez was in charge of, players. Not property.

So was i fwiw

I think it was mentioned a month or so ago, but Shez was the lower league equivalent to Pulis. Both took on Argyle with zero first team morale, poor/ terrible on field management, and teams looking very likely for relegation. They both stabilised Argyle, got rid of some of the deadwood and made Argyle defensively strong.

This allowed Holloway/ Adams to add to the nucleus of the team and produce good sides.

Pulis only had one season with us, so may have got us promoted if he stayed longer, Shez almost achieved the feat but some of his management decisions were questionable at the end- but he still did a good but unspectacular job.

Certainly neither would be classed as our best managers, but they certainly are no-where near the worst.

Good luck to him at Newport.

Newport have signed Tommy O'Sullivan and Jazzi Barnum-Bobb on loan from neighbours Cardiff.
Sky Bet

Both players will remain with County for a month, until November 14, and will come into contention for their debuts when Sky Bet League 2 promotion favourites Portsmouth visit Rodney Parade on Saturday.

Midfielder O'Sullivan is the Under-21 captain at Cardiff and has previous Football League experience having made five appearances during a loan spell at Port Vale last season.

Barnum-Bobb is a defender who made his senior debut for the Bluebirds against Coventry in the Capital One Cup in August 2014

Jazzi Barnum-Bobb

And there was me thinking that Troy Archibald-Henville was the silliest name in football. He definitely still wins the award for sounding most like a hereditary peer though.

Chemical Ali wrote:

I think it was mentioned a month or so ago, but Shez was the lower league equivalent to Pulis. Both took on Argyle with zero first team morale, poor/ terrible on field management, and teams looking very likely for relegation. They both stabilised Argyle, got rid of some of the deadwood and made Argyle defensively strong.

This allowed Holloway/ Adams to add to the nucleus of the team and produce good sides.

Pulis only had one season with us, so may have got us promoted if he stayed longer, Shez almost achieved the feat but some of his management decisions were questionable at the end- but he still did a good but unspectacular job.

Certainly neither would be classed as our best managers, but they certainly are no-where near the worst.

Good luck to him at Newport.

I've got some respect for the stabilisation job Sheridan did but let's not make things up. He did nothing of the sort. We barely scraped into the last play-off position and at no point under his tenure did we seriously mount an automatic promotion bid.

Innocent Egbunike wrote:

Chemical Ali wrote:

I think it was mentioned a month or so ago, but Shez was the lower league equivalent to Pulis. Both took on Argyle with zero first team morale, poor/ terrible on field management, and teams looking very likely for relegation. They both stabilised Argyle, got rid of some of the deadwood and made Argyle defensively strong.

This allowed Holloway/ Adams to add to the nucleus of the team and produce good sides.

Pulis only had one season with us, so may have got us promoted if he stayed longer, Shez almost achieved the feat but some of his management decisions were questionable at the end- but he still did a good but unspectacular job.

Certainly neither would be classed as our best managers, but they certainly are no-where near the worst.

Good luck to him at Newport.

I've got some respect for the stabilisation job Sheridan did but let's not make things up. He did nothing of the sort. We barely scraped into the last play-off position and at no point under his tenure did we seriously mount an automatic promotion bid.

but we still got there though.