Greece

Mock Cuncher wrote:

TBF this recent molesting of the Greek people turns me massively against the EU in a way I've not experienced before.

My sentiments exactly. A very good post all round. Looks like the underlying capitalist banking crisis is continuing to unite and divide in all the old European and worldwide political fault lines of old. It's probably tectonic, if not Teutonic. Germany now has it's central and Eastern European 'empire' on the cheap and is now showing it' open hostility to Southern and Western Atlantic state culture. As ATD often says, it's all coming together nicely.

John Hawkins wrote:

Mock Cuncher wrote:

TBF this recent molesting of the Greek people turns me massively against the EU in a way I've not experienced before.

My sentiments exactly. A very good post all round. Looks like the underlying capitalist banking crisis is continuing to unite and divide in all the old European and worldwide political fault lines of old. It's probably tectonic, if not Teutonic. Germany now has it's central and Eastern European 'empire' on the cheap and is now showing it' open hostility to Southern and Western Atlantic state culture. As ATD often says, it's all coming together nicely.

Portugal next on their list ?

Give it 3 years and we will have this all again.

Portugal has already been assimilated by the Fourth Reich.

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

Give it 3 years and we will have this all again.

Leave for next government seems to be the plan

Just came back from a late booking trip from Skiathos Greece after an absence of 24 Years from Greece.
Greece had changed a lot, memories were of Bouzouki Music everywhere now overtaken by European Techno.
I didnt find the place expensive Per se but was certainly more than I had expected. To go through 100 Euro a day for just myself and 14 year old son and just a few beers daily for me in that, I felt was a lot.
If anyone is interested in pricing will happily give a breakdown on the thread

Prices can vary considerably certainly from Island to Island, and even from resort to resort. As an example you'll pay a fair chunk more for a three course meal on Mykonos than you would on Crete.

What were you paying generally?

Czarcasm wrote:

Prices can vary considerably certainly from Island to Island, and even from resort to resort. As an example you'll pay a fair chunk more for a three course meal on Mykonos than you would on Crete.

What were you paying generally?

No you're right about different pricing. It was only a one week quickie late booking and I wasn't too bothered about any "research"

Got some basic information from Trip Advisor after posting up some basic questions.

Draft Beer was the biggest price difference from place to place. Using what I would call identical style Tavernas for Big Draft was 2.5 Euro (excellent) to 6.5 Euro for identical booze. I aint the type to get scammed on pricing so quick look at Menues confirmed pricing

Food simple stuff in the evening was running 40 Euro which is not expensive I agree for the both of us but starts to add up with English Breakfasts (are choice of course) running 16 Euro for 2

Add in lunch for the boy at around 10 Euro and we havent started trips etc.

Jet ski at Aghio Perakavi (which I did twice) was 30 Euro for 12 minutes
At Koukanaries Beach it was 40 Euro (I declined) for 10 minutes.

These prices 4 times I what I pay in Far East but this is Europe I acknowledge

Bus/Coach run the main rd (only one on Island) and are a flat 1.6 Euro hop on hop off. Excellent value.

Cruise around island was 98 Euro for us both, booked with Thompsons themselves. No question probably would have been cheaper if I had gone direct to Boat Owners (saw their advery subsequently at 39 Euro each)

Copy Beats headphones were roughly 16 Euro (not bad) roughly double Far East but again not bad for Europe.

Copy Lacoste, Armani T shirts roughly 10 Euro (not bad again )

Flight not bad to be honest re seating. As only 3 hours not bothered about very small seat pitch but wouldn't fancy long haul in those seats although I believe their Dreamliners have bigger pitch. Luton is a shit tip and thats very polite.

Paid only £247 Self Catering at Ariadne Resort (brochure price was £651 !!) Some had paid full price. I would not have been overly impressed if we had.

Would I go again No.....But very nice place indeed lovely Beaches but a no go island if you were a group of lads. Unless you were into Beaches Swimming Pools you'd have been pretty bored. Greek Girls gone up in my estimation. Some right dolls there.

Bailout nearly sorted according to Beeb. Euro rate at 141 this morning about the same as I recieved for my recent France trip. First time I've been to France for about four years last visit was with a rate of about 110 it's makes quite a difference, Drum baccy @ €8.20 for 50g, €10.20 for GV, meal out Soupe de Poissons x 2 and Moules Marniere x 2 beers x 2 and a nice bottle of Laungedoc white cost €60 at a lovely restuarant on the harbour. Diesel worked out at about a quid a litre.

Good news about the bailout. Gotta say I haven't noticed any real tangible difference from last year apart from petrol now being on par if not more expensive than the UK. 3euro for a 0.5l Mythos is fairly standard and that hasn't changed really in the last 12 months.

It's still roasting and the people are still lovely. Good times.