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lawnmowerman
Posts : 2781 Join date : 2012-01-03 Age : 46 Location : plymouth
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:13 pm | |
| just checked the league website and palfc have a -29 goal difference. |
| | | Dick Trickle
Posts : 2622 Join date : 2014-02-15
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:20 pm | |
| - Tgwu wrote:
- Do not upset KT today,
Cardiff Ladies 9 Plymouth Argyle Ladies 1
Argyle did have a player sent off again Are you sure you got your facts right TGWU? |
| | | Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:17 pm | |
| This is a fact
Argyle Ladies bid to raise funds to 'stay in the Premier League
PLYMOUTH Argyle Ladies have turned to an internet-based fundraising model to cover costs which they say are adversely affecting their results on the pitch.
A new coach may help |
| | | Dick Trickle
Posts : 2622 Join date : 2014-02-15
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:58 pm | |
| It is such a shame that teams within the "Argyle Family" have to resort to such public appeals for donations.
I remember the old lottery system from the 1970's which was very successful. Was it Bill Pearce who set that up? I seem to remember it being pretty groundbreaking at the time, however I maybe wrong.
I suppose the modern equivalent of that would be the 50/50 draw. Where do the proceeds go from the 50/50 draw? Does it go directly to the Community Department? |
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| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:22 pm | |
| couldnt the reluctant one chip in.... |
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| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:03 pm | |
| - Dick Trickle wrote:
I remember the old lottery system from the 1970's which was very successful. Was it Bill Pearce who set that up? I seem to remember it being pretty groundbreaking at the time, however I maybe wrong. It was Bill Pearce, Dick. The first, when few other lotteries were around. Argyle covered most of the West country, including sports teams, community centres, pubs etc. Even Arsenal came down to check it out. Can't say we were any more successful as a team, but it was a good community effort. I do however find a whole plethora of sport teams carrying the Argyle brand a bit irritating. They aren't Argyle, fullstop. Jimmy plainly thinks he doesn't have to fully fund these activities. |
| | | argyl3
Posts : 886 Join date : 2013-04-02 Location : Down West
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:37 pm | |
| - Sir John Hawkins wrote:
- Dick Trickle wrote:
I remember the old lottery system from the 1970's which was very successful. Was it Bill Pearce who set that up? I seem to remember it being pretty groundbreaking at the time, however I maybe wrong. It was Bill Pearce, Dick. The first, when few other lotteries were around. Argyle covered most of the West country, including sports teams, community centres, pubs etc. Even Arsenal came down to check it out. Can't say we were any more successful as a team, but it was a good community effort. I do however find a whole plethora of sport teams carrying the Argyle brand a bit irritating. They aren't Argyle, fullstop. Jimmy plainly thinks he doesn't have to fully fund these activities. Like Woolton Hill Argyle? |
| | | Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:34 pm | |
| Did they have the seats in front of the cafe between the main stand and disable stand and was able to sell them and keep the money? |
| | | Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:38 pm | |
| Full facts Argyle Ladies bid to raise funds to 'stay in the Premier League'ARGYLE FUNDING BID: Ladies captain Katie Middleton, said the team don't even have a training kit PLYMOUTH Argyle Ladies have turned to an internet-based fundraising model to cover costs which they say are adversely affecting their results on the pitch. Players who wear the same green and white strip for the women's team every Sunday are pay out hundreds of pounds a season to do so, as they must pay for their own travel costs, accommodation and even pitch hire. To cover these costs, the team have turned to website Crowdfunder.co.uk to raise money, setting an initial target of £1,500. As of Tuesday teatime, the team had been pledged £630 towards their total, with the deadline ending on Thursday. Argyle Ladies are the highest-ranked women's team in Devon and Cornwall, and compete in the Women's Premier League Southern Division, just two promotions from the top tier. Only Yeovil Town Ladies, in Women's Super League Two, play at a higher level in the South West. Yet the funding page tries to attract funds to 'sustain our future in the Women's Premier League' and captain Katie Middleton said lack of funds were making them look 'amateurish' as they don't even have a proper training kit. "We've said £1,500 – that's what we're aiming for," said Middleton. "It's to try and raise as much money as we can, as we self-fund and have to travel long distances every season. "Very often during the season we travel 4,000 miles in total, and then we've got to pay for our own overnight accommodation if we need it, and we can only afford to train once a week. "We don't have any training kit – in that sense we're a bit amateurish, certainly in terms of the league we're in." The team play home games at Elburton Villa FC's Haye Road, but make away trips to places including Lewes in Sussex, Brighton and Basildon, among other places. Middleton said the club have backed them in the form of providing use of a minibus for away games, playing kit and a sponsorship donation. But she said it would be nice if more backing from the Pilgrims was available so that players didn't have to dip into their pocket every time they represent the club. "The club give us a playing kit so we're the same as the first team, and the community department gave us £1,000 at the start of the season as a sponsor," she said. "They also let us use the minibus to travel to away games, but we have to pay for the petrol." She added: "Obviously we would like it if they would give us more money, but I understand that they weren't in the position where they could help us out a couple of seasons ago. "Whether their financial position has changed I don't know. "As players we all feel they could give us a bit more support even in terms of training kit." Middleton also said that even people who don't want to donate directly could help them by turning up to watch them in action on Sunday at Haye Road. "That would definitely help – we get gate receipts as we have to pay for pitch hire, so the more that come to see us, the better. Read more: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
| | | argyl3
Posts : 886 Join date : 2013-04-02 Location : Down West
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:42 pm | |
| Isnt this another case of Brenty not loosening the purse strings for a team that represents Argyle?? |
| | | Dick Trickle
Posts : 2622 Join date : 2014-02-15
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:19 pm | |
| - Sir John Hawkins wrote:
- Dick Trickle wrote:
I remember the old lottery system from the 1970's which was very successful. Was it Bill Pearce who set that up? I seem to remember it being pretty groundbreaking at the time, however I maybe wrong. It was Bill Pearce, Dick. The first, when few other lotteries were around. Argyle covered most of the West country, including sports teams, community centres, pubs etc. Even Arsenal came down to check it out. Can't say we were any more successful as a team, but it was a good community effort. I do however find a whole plethora of sport teams carrying the Argyle brand a bit irritating. They aren't Argyle, fullstop. Jimmy plainly thinks he doesn't have to fully fund these activities. Thanks SJH. Not sure I agree with you on the other teams. If a club wants to represent the community then having, and crucially supporting, a ladies, youth, disabled team etc is a good thing. Yes, its not the first team, but frankly for most our existence supporting the first team is a pretty soulless experience. Having said that if you are going to have these teams then they need to be supported by the club. I only asked the 50/50 question because it must make a reasonable amount each home game. |
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| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Wed Nov 11, 2015 5:44 pm | |
| There's plenty of disabled, ladies and youth community sport teams out there Dick, without the Argyle brand to go with it. I don't even necessarily subscribe to the idea that "sport" is particularly a laudable human activity to warrant charidee status. It only seems to have gained traction in the last 80 years under a dubious health argument. If we're all into health, how about rattling some buckets for a decent reliable trustworthy shite free, nutrient rich food industry ? Outside of the obvious participating enjoyment factor that I've had a lot of in my time being the athletic Adonis sort, I see much competitive team sport as a social cover for regimental you know what. |
| | | zyph
Posts : 13376 Join date : 2014-03-02 Age : 85
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Wed Nov 11, 2015 5:50 pm | |
| - Dick Trickle wrote:
- It is such a shame that teams within the "Argyle Family" have to resort to such public appeals for donations.
I remember the old lottery system from the 1970's which was very successful. Was it Bill Pearce who set that up? I seem to remember it being pretty groundbreaking at the time, however I maybe wrong.
I suppose the modern equivalent of that would be the 50/50 draw. Where do the proceeds go from the 50/50 draw? Does it go directly to the Community Department? Yes Bill Pearce was the man......at the time he came up to PASALB and gave us an interesting talk on it......and told us how he was helping the bigger clubs.....as in the old Div 1.... set up their own lotteries |
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| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:19 pm | |
| - argyl3 wrote:
- Isnt this another case of Brenty not loosening the purse strings for a team that represents Argyle??
To be fair on this rare occassion to the reluctant one the club generally doesnt give a shit about the ladies side and never really has done in terms of support or finances. Im sure they have helped in ways in the past but never really been gunho about it. |
| | | Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:30 pm | |
| Plymouth Argyle LFC
TARGET ACHIEVED! We would like to say a massive thank you to everybody who has pledged money to the fund |
| | | CoachKT
Posts : 6 Join date : 2015-11-04
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:31 pm | |
| A massive thank you to everyone who helped us reach our 'Crowdfunder' target.
This will now help to alleviate the pressure on us as a club 'off the pitch', what we now have to address is our form on it.
It has been a harsh fact that our lack of resources (both on and off the field of play) means we cannot realistically compete with the likes of the Brightons, Charltons and Cardiff Citys and the disparity between the top and bottom half of the FA Women's Premier League is quite a large one.
Having avoided relegation by one place and 3 pts last season, this seasons fixture list could not have been any more unkind as we have played last season's top four and Coventry United (who switched to the Southern half after finishing runners up in the Northern section) in our first five home games since the start of the season and whilst we might have lost all those games, it's fair to say that our performances have steadily improved.
In contrast, we have already managed more points on the road so far than we did in the whole of last season.
Last weekend, having lost 3-1 at home to Cardiff City a fortnight ago, we went to Wales for the return fixture missing five players through injury and two who were away on a South West Regional Training Camp, whilst Cardiff were able to field three Welsh Internationals!
Having a player harshly red carded for pulling back a Cardiff Player and deemed to be the last defender, after only nine minutes didn't help matters but to keep a rampant Cardiff side at bay for 37 minutes was testament to some resolute defending and fine goalkeeping by Michaela Phillips, before three quick goals just before half time.
We managed to pull a goal back after the break but with a player down we tired rapidly in the final 20 minutes and the goals against column was despairingly ramped up to nine before the final whistle.
Last night, however, we got a moral boosting 5-1 win against the Devon FA Rep Team at Coach Road, before we face a massive game at home to Lewes (weather permitting) on Sunday and with the exception of Brighton away on 13th December we now have a run of games against other teams in the bottom half of the League in the run up to Christmas, after which, we will have a better idea of where we stand in our fight to avoid relegation for another season and it's results against these sides that will ultimately determine where we finish.
It's all well and good for people to come on these forums and pick out all the negatives; that's your right as a follower of the women's game and football in general and I'm honest enough to take any criticism as well as the plaudits (if and when they come). All I would say is the girls are working hard to improve and would welcome all the help and support they can get.
Once again, thank you on behalf of Plymouth Argyle Ladies FC. |
| | | Dick Trickle
Posts : 2622 Join date : 2014-02-15
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:46 pm | |
| Fair play Coach and best wishes for the remainder of the season. |
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| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:46 pm | |
| Coach, while my comments still stand re the Argyle brand thing, I do remember most amateur/pub/Sunday teams all over the country have always had to try all sorts to raise the expenses for ground rent, kit etc etc., so well done. There are a lot of us very jaundiced at the bucket rattling at Home Park involving the very well funded full time professional club. Sometimes it spills over where it isn't appropriate. Your comment is fair, and well put. I wish you luck. Just stick it in the net a bit more often |
| | | Chemical Ali
Posts : 7322 Join date : 2011-05-10 Age : 47 Location : Plymouth
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:31 pm | |
| Good luck KT and thanks for the post. |
| | | lawnmowerman
Posts : 2781 Join date : 2012-01-03 Age : 46 Location : plymouth
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:39 pm | |
| Nice one coach . good luck for the rest of season. |
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| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:29 pm | |
| nice one Coach, its far from all doom gloom and gloom on here. Try not to lose 2 - 0 though |
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| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:18 pm | |
| Nice one Coach. Good luck for the rest of the season. Looking forward to my calendar for xmas |
| | | Greenskin
Posts : 6243 Join date : 2011-05-16 Age : 64 Location : Tavistock area
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:56 pm | |
| - CoachKT wrote:
- A massive thank you to everyone who helped us reach our 'Crowdfunder' target.
This will now help to alleviate the pressure on us as a club 'off the pitch', what we now have to address is our form on it.
It has been a harsh fact that our lack of resources (both on and off the field of play) means we cannot realistically compete with the likes of the Brightons, Charltons and Cardiff Citys and the disparity between the top and bottom half of the FA Women's Premier League is quite a large one.
Having avoided relegation by one place and 3 pts last season, this seasons fixture list could not have been any more unkind as we have played last season's top four and Coventry United (who switched to the Southern half after finishing runners up in the Northern section) in our first five home games since the start of the season and whilst we might have lost all those games, it's fair to say that our performances have steadily improved.
In contrast, we have already managed more points on the road so far than we did in the whole of last season.
Last weekend, having lost 3-1 at home to Cardiff City a fortnight ago, we went to Wales for the return fixture missing five players through injury and two who were away on a South West Regional Training Camp, whilst Cardiff were able to field three Welsh Internationals!
Having a player harshly red carded for pulling back a Cardiff Player and deemed to be the last defender, after only nine minutes didn't help matters but to keep a rampant Cardiff side at bay for 37 minutes was testament to some resolute defending and fine goalkeeping by Michaela Phillips, before three quick goals just before half time.
We managed to pull a goal back after the break but with a player down we tired rapidly in the final 20 minutes and the goals against column was despairingly ramped up to nine before the final whistle.
Last night, however, we got a moral boosting 5-1 win against the Devon FA Rep Team at Coach Road, before we face a massive game at home to Lewes (weather permitting) on Sunday and with the exception of Brighton away on 13th December we now have a run of games against other teams in the bottom half of the League in the run up to Christmas, after which, we will have a better idea of where we stand in our fight to avoid relegation for another season and it's results against these sides that will ultimately determine where we finish.
It's all well and good for people to come on these forums and pick out all the negatives; that's your right as a follower of the women's game and football in general and I'm honest enough to take any criticism as well as the plaudits (if and when they come). All I would say is the girls are working hard to improve and would welcome all the help and support they can get.
Once again, thank you on behalf of Plymouth Argyle Ladies FC. Sounds familiar. |
| | | CoachKT
Posts : 6 Join date : 2015-11-04
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:52 pm | |
| Devon Women's Senior Cup
Plymouth Argyle Ladies 16 Activate Ladies 0
Ezme Wells (4) Katie Middleton (4) Dani Salt (3) Phoebe Baker (2) Mollie Taylor Amber Pollock Kayleigh Brown |
| | | Tgwu
Posts : 14779 Join date : 2011-12-11 Location : Central Park (most days)
| Subject: Re: Argyle Ladies Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:00 pm | |
| ARGYLE Ladies’ relegation-threatened season hit a new low on Sunday with a 2-0 home defeat against West Ham United.
Having dropped to the bottom of the League table following back to back defeats against Cardiff City, Argyle went into the re-arranged fixture against the Hammers knowing a win would put us back in touching distance of the teams above.
However, on a bitterly cold and blustery afternoon, despite dominating possession for long periods in the second half, Argyle’s front line lacked a cutting edge and it was the visitors who pulled themselves further away from the relegation places with two goals gifted to them on the break late in the game.
With Christmas still a month away, Argyle knew this was a massive six-pointer but started nervously and it was West Ham who carried the early threat with Michaela Phillips pulling off a fantastic save to deny the impressive Guilia Ferrandi in the opening minutes.
Argyle were struggling to make any headway, with passes going astray, and, with a strong wind in their faces, they were reliant on some resolute defending from the back four to stay in the game.
Slowly but surely, Argyle started to build some attacks with Ezme Wells making some penetrating runs down the right flank and from one such bursting into the West Ham penalty area, the young winger fired a shot high over the crossbar.
Amber Pollock on the opposite wing then got in behind the West Ham defence but her shot was well saved by Aditi Chauhan.
As the half wore on, chances were at a premium with Guilia Ferrandi for West Ham and Argyle’s Phoebe Baker seeing their long-range efforts flash narrowly wide as the teams went in level at the break.
Argyle came out with more intent after the restart, and for ten minutes they were camped in the West Ham half but were lacking the final pass. The visitors weathered the storm and it was they who nearly took the lead when Guila Ferrandi’s well struck free-kick on the hour cannoned back off the post and was cleared.
Argyle were becoming increasingly frustrated at being pulled up for every challenge and in the 67th minute, one momentary lapse in concentration allowed West Ham debutant Aysha Bentick to nip in unmarked at the far post and send a looping header over Michaela Phillips to give the visitors the lead.
It was now West Ham’s turn to defend resolutely and in the remaining 25 minutes, despite wave after wave of attacks, Argyle couldn’t find a way through and in the final minute of injury time, Bentick killed the game with her second goal of the afternoon.
With barely seconds on the clock, Argyle had sent everyone forward for a corner and almost grabbed a equaliser when Natalie Volpini’s header was blocked on the line. As the ball was cleared, Aysha Bentick outpaced Jodie Chubb and her somewhat mishit shot crept in at Michaela Phillips’ near post.
Manager Kevin Taylor was left to rue the lack of quality in the final third in a game that, in truth, was there for the taking.
“We all knew the enormity of this game”, said Taylor. “I tried to diffuse the situation to take the pressure off the younger ones. Unfortunately, we were too nervy at the start and panicked a bit when in good areas going forward.
“The longer the game went it looked like the first team to score were going to win, so the manner of their first was extremely disappointing and then we gambled late on and got caught with the second.”
The defeat leaves Argyle still at the bottom of the League and, due to their poor goal difference, effectively four points from safety. They do, however, still have games in hand on the teams immediately above them, but next Sunday’s home game with QPR is by no stretch of the imagination a must-win. |
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