Tantrums and hissy fits over on the PASOTI ''Exeter designated away pub/escort'' thread

Oh dear, toys being thrown out of the pram and verbal disagreements abound in the PASOTI Exeter designated away pub/escort? thread below.

Pages 5 and 6 are lively.

http://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=87690&start=52

Full Thread - http://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=87690

I thought most, if not all of the posts, to be inane drivel. It does seem that some are creating a non-story, while others are putting a different aspect to the day as a whole.

Think some are quick to jump on a high horse.

I was around walkabout, a few minor scuffles (pushing and shoving) because the police didn't really know what they were doing. Telling fans they could leave the pub, then the officers outside trying to push them back in.

In the ground, a few unpleasant but not deeply offensive songs, nothing illegal.

It's a derby, not everything's going to go swimmingly, but at the same time, nothing went majorly wrong yesterday.

Thought an extremely heavy police presence made things worse if I'm honest. The officer at St David's was extremely friendly and helpful, but the officers at Walkabout were a joke, heavy handed to the extremes, we were grabbed and told to p*ss off for just standing nearby trying to work out where to go, when we asked an officer for directions he said "walk around you'll find it" then he laughed and walked off, pathetic really.

Some officers (not all by any stretch) seem to treat every football fan like a hooligan.

Most of the Police presence was there because of about 15-20 dickheads, a few of whom are well known to Devon and Cornwall's finest.
The Arsehole with the slap-head who used to run that club 'venue' on union street (before it got shut down) is a major player in the Hooligan world at these kind of matches, his clientele basically consists of every available nutter in Plymouth whom he can muster up regardless of whether they are an Argyle/football fan or not.
Why they follow him is beyond reason, he has a reputation for being a bit of a Wanker which is why i guess he attracts such people.
When the tickets went on sale the club would not go through with the purchase unless a valid address was supplied from the buyer..who is to stop a third party coming in from buying ticket's and passing onto well known knobbers like the one previously mentioned.
It's very hard to enforce.

Moved as Farm tittle tattle should be in the Zoo.

God help some of you, plymouth v exeter is tiddlywinks.

Elias wrote:

God help some of you, plymouth v exeter is tiddlywinks.

It is tiddlywinks which is exactly why these cheese-dicks try it on against lol ol Exeter.

Would you see them doing it at Bristol City, Cardiff or Millwall to name a few ?

They're very careful about who they can act 'hard' around.

To be honest they don't bother me but I can understand how they piss the casual fan off.

So Argyle have never had trouble against bigger clubs?

Pitbull wrote:

Think some are quick to jump on a high horse.

I was around walkabout, a few minor scuffles (pushing and shoving) because the police didn't really know what they were doing. Telling fans they could leave the pub, then the officers outside trying to push them back in.

In the ground, a few unpleasant but not deeply offensive songs, nothing illegal.

It's a derby, not everything's going to go swimmingly, but at the same time, nothing went majorly wrong yesterday.

Thought an extremely heavy police presence made things worse if I'm honest. The officer at St David's was extremely friendly and helpful, but the officers at Walkabout were a joke, heavy handed to the extremes, we were grabbed and told to p*ss off for just standing nearby trying to work out where to go, when we asked an officer for directions he said "walk around you'll find it" then he laughed and walked off, pathetic really.

Some officers (not all by any stretch) seem to treat every football fan like a hooligan.

By and large, the Force is infested with power hungry knobends who get to live out their controlling and authoritative fantasies at work, before going home and being instructed which pile of ironing to tackle first. 'Twas ever so.

ejh wrote:

So Argyle have never had trouble against bigger clubs?

Your playing devils advocate here.

My point was that 'matey' and his chums never turn out against the clubs who have the real deal if you know what i mean.
If you want to talk the talk, walk the walk and forge reputation you have to think better then giving it the biggie at Exeter FFS.

Most of the trouble against the 'bigger clubs' as you put it has been instigated by the bigger club the last 10-15 years, don't get me wrong back in the 1980's and early 90's if there was a hooligan league table Argyle would be pushing for the Premiership, these days we are in League 2 along with the football.

There is honor among thieves even with hooligans but I observed those chimps on Saturday.

What a bunch of Wankers.

Punchdrunk wrote:

ejh wrote:

So Argyle have never had trouble against bigger clubs?

Your playing devils advocate here.

My point was that 'matey' and his chums never turn out against the clubs who have the real deal if you know what i mean.
If you want to talk the talk, walk the walk and forge reputation you have to think better then giving it the biggie at Exeter FFS.

Most of the trouble against the 'bigger clubs' as you put it has been instigated by the bigger club the last 10-15 years, don't get me wrong back in the 1980's and early 90's if there was a hooligan league table Argyle would be pushing for the Premiership, these days we are in League 2 along with the football.

There is honor among thieves even with hooligans but I observed those chimps on Saturday.

What a bunch of Wankers.

I remember one man being sent to prison for his violence after a home match against Leeds. Also there was a fair few dozen if not hundred Argyle fans causing trouble in the ground against Bristol City not too long ago. So I don't really agree the knuckledraggers get intimidated when it comes to big clubs. Exeter just attracts more of them out (and more incidents) because it is a local derby, more than because they are a small club that is easier to bully.

ejh wrote:

Punchdrunk wrote:

ejh wrote:

So Argyle have never had trouble against bigger clubs?

Your playing devils advocate here.

My point was that 'matey' and his chums never turn out against the clubs who have the real deal if you know what i mean.
If you want to talk the talk, walk the walk and forge reputation you have to think better then giving it the biggie at Exeter FFS.

Most of the trouble against the 'bigger clubs' as you put it has been instigated by the bigger club the last 10-15 years, don't get me wrong back in the 1980's and early 90's if there was a hooligan league table Argyle would be pushing for the Premiership, these days we are in League 2 along with the football.

There is honor among thieves even with hooligans but I observed those chimps on Saturday.

What a bunch of Wankers.

I remember one man being sent to prison for his violence after a home match against Leeds. Also there was a fair few dozen if not hundred Argyle fans causing trouble in the ground against Bristol City not too long ago. So I don't really agree the knuckledraggers get intimidated when it comes to big clubs. Exeter just attracts more of them out (and more incidents) because it is a local derby, more than because they are a small club that is easier to bully.

When exactly?

I don't know, punchy might have a point here, though I think you both could be right.

Yes Exeter drags out more because it's a derby but they are a small club without that sort of 'hooligan' (cringe) side to them, they're not a violent bunch in any way. That small club feeling you get from them just sort of brings out the worst in some of the idiots from our side. So yeah, a mix of derby and being able to (what they think) bully some Exeter fans.

You'll get the odd idiot at every game but didn't they pick Mansfield away to kick off at this season? What a bizarre club to start kicking off at.

Josh Pope wrote:

I don't know, punchy might have a point here, though I think you both could be right.

Yes Exeter drags out more because it's a derby but they are a small club without that sort of 'hooligan' (cringe) side to them, they're not a violent bunch in any way. That small club feeling you get from them just sort of brings out the worst in some of the idiots from our side. So yeah, a mix of derby and being able to (what they think) bully some Exeter fans.

You'll get the odd idiot at every game but didn't they pick Mansfield away to kick off at this season? What a bizarre club to start kicking off at.

For some reason, TCE always turn up for one game or so a season in that part of the country. Shrewsbury and Crewe I've seen them at too.

I don't see what there is to complain about Pasoti on this one. Yes it's hardly Galatasaray but that doesn't change the fact that a few people were acting like complete knobs.

GreenSam wrote:

Josh Pope wrote:

I don't know, punchy might have a point here, though I think you both could be right.

Yes Exeter drags out more because it's a derby but they are a small club without that sort of 'hooligan' (cringe) side to them, they're not a violent bunch in any way. That small club feeling you get from them just sort of brings out the worst in some of the idiots from our side. So yeah, a mix of derby and being able to (what they think) bully some Exeter fans.

You'll get the odd idiot at every game but didn't they pick Mansfield away to kick off at this season? What a bizarre club to start kicking off at.

For some reason, TCE always turn up for one game or so a season in that part of the country. Shrewsbury and Crewe I've seen them at too.

I don't see what there is to complain about Pasoti on this one. Yes it's hardly Galatasaray but that doesn't change the fact that a few people were acting like complete knobs.

Sam the original TCE have been dead for years.

What we have now are a load of bully boy scrotes who like to dish it out when the numbers favor themselves.

Prime example ..acting the big man in Torquay of all places.

Punchdrunk wrote:

ejh wrote:

Punchdrunk wrote:

ejh wrote:

So Argyle have never had trouble against bigger clubs?

Your playing devils advocate here.

My point was that 'matey' and his chums never turn out against the clubs who have the real deal if you know what i mean.
If you want to talk the talk, walk the walk and forge reputation you have to think better then giving it the biggie at Exeter FFS.

Most of the trouble against the 'bigger clubs' as you put it has been instigated by the bigger club the last 10-15 years, don't get me wrong back in the 1980's and early 90's if there was a hooligan league table Argyle would be pushing for the Premiership, these days we are in League 2 along with the football.

There is honor among thieves even with hooligans but I observed those chimps on Saturday.

What a bunch of Wankers.

I remember one man being sent to prison for his violence after a home match against Leeds. Also there was a fair few dozen if not hundred Argyle fans causing trouble in the ground against Bristol City not too long ago. So I don't really agree the knuckledraggers get intimidated when it comes to big clubs. Exeter just attracts more of them out (and more incidents) because it is a local derby, more than because they are a small club that is easier to bully.

When exactly?

Mid 2000s. TCE's finest stormed toward the away end and were battling with police and getting repelled with truncheons after uncovering the segregation netting and moving two blocks closer to the Bristol City fans. I was in the Devonport when it happened.

Theyd get chinned against bigger clubs, mansfield proved tougher than expected.
The home game should prove interesting.

Hold the front page, after seven thousand football fan descended on Exeter a couple of them were a bit pissed up and acted like twats, try seeing how many of these people misbehave in a night out on the piss, probably more and aided and abetted by their molls. Nothing other than a few public order offences happened of note, another non story from the site that only approves of some lawbreaking not others.

I see West Ham United fans are under investigation.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31586198

Iggy wrote:

Hold the front page, after seven thousand football fan descended on Exeter a couple of them were a bit pissed up and acted like twats, try seeing how many of these people misbehave in a night out on the piss, probably more and aided and abetted by their molls. Nothing other than a few public order offences happened of note, another non story from the site that only approves of some lawbreaking not others.

Zactly.

You could understand reactions had there been major trouble at Exeter on Saturday. As it was and is, there was no major trouble, only very minor incidents [D&C have even stated that in the media].

You will always get a form of obscene chanting at football matches [your general bog standard stuff], and especially local derbies. some of it will be distasteful, some of it light-hearted and some of it unusual.

Many fans will brush the chants off, as they are concentrating on the game, rather than listening out for a certain chant.

It is very rare to hear Argyle supporters chant anti-colour, creed or religious words.

As for one poster on PASOTI who said they will try and get people banned or whatever, that comes across as spiteful and petty, but he has the right to do that.

FAO Punchdrunk AKA Keyboard warrior !!! Im a good friend of "Slaphead" and was also one of the so called 15 - 20 "Nutters" who attended the game with him. My first reaction is that you have some sort of fascination with him and the so called "TCE", you know so much. Then i felt a bit of a hatred coming through, have you viewed your opinions to him or his friends, any man who felt so strongly about this surely would.

I dont believe there was any trouble on saturday so im not sure what the problem is. Also for idiots to say that "Lads" dont turn out for the "Big games" like Bristol C, Cardiff or Millwall, can you please remind me when the last time we played any of these teams.

You sound like a pathetic old man who once tried to be a member but was never accepted !!!

ooooo hark at her.

It's a bit like coming across some sort of pre-historic cave graffiti.

RobJones67 wrote:

FAO Punchdrunk AKA Keyboard warrior !!! Im a good friend of "Slaphead" and was also one of the so called 15 - 20 "Nutters" who attended the game with him. My first reaction is that you have some sort of fascination with him and the so called "TCE", you know so much. Then i felt a bit of a hatred coming through, have you viewed your opinions to him or his friends, any man who felt so strongly about this surely would.

I dont believe there was any trouble on saturday so im not sure what the problem is. Also for idiots to say that "Lads" dont turn out for the "Big games" like Bristol C, Cardiff or Millwall, can you please remind me when the last time we played any of these teams.

You sound like a pathetic old man who once tried to be a member but was never accepted !!!

Good first post Rob, certainly pulled no punches

Anyone who goes to a football match looking for trouble is a cnut.

Welcome to ATD.

RobJones67 wrote:

FAO Punchdrunk AKA Keyboard warrior !!! Im a good friend of "Slaphead" and was also one of the so called 15 - 20 "Nutters" who attended the game with him. My first reaction is that you have some sort of fascination with him and the so called "TCE", you know so much. Then i felt a bit of a hatred coming through, have you viewed your opinions to him or his friends, any man who felt so strongly about this surely would.

I dont believe there was any trouble on saturday so im not sure what the problem is. Also for idiots to say that "Lads" dont turn out for the "Big games" like Bristol C, Cardiff or Millwall, can you please remind me when the last time we played any of these teams.

You sound like a pathetic old man who once tried to be a member but was never accepted !!!

Ahh the old real people,keyboard warrior, wanting to meet up in person and all the rest of that bollocks.
You sound just like somebody we know from another well known Argyle related forum ?

If you read one my earlier post's on this subject you will see that I have already said that personally people acting like goat's at the footy dosnt really bother me.

As for wanting to join the TCE