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Guest Guest
| Subject: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:58 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Given that Hereford have been in their current predicament for months and months, why do this so late in the day? Is business as a 'consultant' for football clubs in supporter relations not really taking off? Need something fresher for the CV? |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:13 am | |
| Can I just add that the last attendance at Edgar Street was about 300.
The vast majority are boycotting the football club because there is a visible leech in their directors box who only bought the club on the cheap so he could develop the ground and make a personal fortune.
Hopefully the irony in Webb sticking his oar in to criticise Agombar won't be lost on many. Given that Webb remains loyal to Plymourh's version of that man until his dying breath.
Back on track, I'd love to know the purpose Webb's fest will serve here, when ten times as many Hereford fans refuse to attend than those that do. Perhaps not the same vibe as a pasty and a pint deal, two clowns on stage with a guitar and a big marquee to have fun together in. FFS, most Hereford fans don't even believe they have a football club any more, just a debt saddled corpse of a former club, struggling in a pathetic league of amateurs, with adolescents for players, a corrupt con man in charge, HMRC just waiting to liquidate the club terminally, and no light whatsoever at the end of the tunnel (short of a phoenix club).
Has Webb even familiarised himself with this club's plight at all? |
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jabba the gut ecfc
Posts : 370 Join date : 2011-09-07
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:30 am | |
| Evening all. I wasn't going to dare show my face on here until there was considerably less chance of me having to suffer thermonuclear ridicule about the football side of things (yes, I'm a pussy). However I've just seen your odious toad of a president's piece in the Brent Herald. As you know there is no more fanatical believer in the Trust model than myself. Therefore his plans to exploit Hereford's misery for his own ends, in yet another example of the vainglorious, mendacious, smug and self-promoting conceit that he is notorious for fills me with horror. I usually try not to hurl downright insults on forums as I believe nine times out of ten it's counterproductive, but this parasitic scumbag who resembles nothing so much as a walking, talking bag of blood, bone and hubris is complete poison to the ideals of the Trust movement in my view and him and his wealthy private-owner arse-licking, anti-democratic, spotty backside is the antithesis of everything it stands for. Hereford is a club I have a lot of time for - not just because of the extra sympathy I have with fans of all clubs in crisis since our own brush with oblivion (part of the reason I came here in the first place) but also because their fans' commitment to fighting for a Trust model. The Stanno connection is also a consideration I suppose. I post on their forum sometimes - I've actually mentioned your situation and posted the ATD URL for them to get some flavour of the stitch-up taking place at PAFC. I badly want to warn them about Webb and his attempt to suck the blood of their campaign for his own self-promoting ends. The problem is that I'm obviously compromised considering who I support. Unfortunately their forum is closed to new members (I joined years and years ago to slag off Tim Sills). I was therefore hoping you lot could start a thread - maybe something like "Warning Hereford Fans, Chris Webb is coming" and give them chapter and verse. For example, explaining the Greenman episode; his completely undemocratic behaviour and lack of genuine legitimacy; the absurdity of and unsupported assertions behind the credit he takes for helping save the club; his jaw-dropping behaviour in accepting the Brent shilling while consistently undermining the only democratic organisation that has ever represented the fans of PAFC; his association with individuals who have done even worse things, particularly the John Petrie episode, PIGSOTI and the Stasi etc; his legacy of leaving the fans with precisely zero formal representation at PAFC despite his influence with Brent and so on. If you can do that, I'll start a thread on their forum and direct them here. The more posts the better, but try and be as temperate and methodical as you can. Trust me, I understand the intense emotions Webb can arouse - having read his article my blood is boiling and I'm obviously not even a Green - but too much virulent abuse could allow Webb to discredit you with the heavy artillery of his ultraviolet prose and practised air of cod-Churchillian heroism. I'll check back in a few days. (I wonder how many times the numbers "3" and "0" will be posted in the next few days? I guess we all have our cross to bear). |
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Dougie
Posts : 3191 Join date : 2011-12-02
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:16 am | |
| One of the demands of the Hereford fans is "Pay the staff, current and former, in full".
I hope that our club president will stand full square behind that demand for both Hereford and Argyle. He can hardly speak out haranguing the Hereford board whilst falling in behind Brent's offer of 50p in the £ to our ex players.
Perhaps he can use his weekly column to point out to James the error of his ways. |
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Cornish Chris
Posts : 1246 Join date : 2014-03-04 Age : 109 Location : Gwoin' up Camborne Hill
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:56 am | |
| No anti-Greek abuse from me. Give me an articulate, passionate and friendly City fan over a Janner Man Yoo of Chelsea fan any day.
Others are better placed than me to give chapter and verse on The Chris's history, but it needs doing. |
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Elias
Posts : 6006 Join date : 2011-12-05 Location : brent out
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:08 am | |
| Hopefully hereford fans will tell him to do one |
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Tringreen
Posts : 10917 Join date : 2011-05-10 Age : 74 Location : Tring
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:33 am | |
| I hope someone, or ideally some of us can do what Jabba suggests on Hereford forums.Well constructed and reasoned posts, not basic anti Webb rantings.
Are there any links and can we join ? |
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Tringreen
Posts : 10917 Join date : 2011-05-10 Age : 74 Location : Tring
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:39 am | |
| Dear oh Dear................Self promoting user speaks.
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2014
Proposal For Fans Reunited Day At Hereford By Organic Bull
Chris Webb is the President of Plymouth Argyle and has been watching what's been happening at Hereford United with great interest.
Hi there. My name is Chris and for my sins I am the President of the greatest team in the World (although I am sure a few Bulls fans will disagree), Plymouth Argyle.
Some of you may be aware that in 2011, Argyle were in administration and nearly fell out of the Football League and more importantly came within millimetres of liquidation.
We, like you were able to unite the supporters behind the Fans’ Trust and a fundraising Organisation named The Green Taverners. We raised thousands of pounds to support the unpaid staff and players whilst creating a hostile, passionate and innovative campaign that ultimately saved Argyle. We did many of the same things that I am sure your Trust is undertaking – Putting pressure on the media, using social media, coordinating activity via fans forums, match day protests (although hard given the boycott, I know) and ultimately threatening to legally and peacefully picket the properties of the main characters involved in the administration.
Eventually. After 10 long, hard and bitter months a local man, James Brent stepped forward and saved the Club.
The purpose of my post is to highlight what was a key moment. Towards the end of administration, A Fans Reunited event was organised by Brighton (An Argyle fan originally started Fans United to help save Brighton in the 90s). Hundreds of supporters from Clubs across the UK came to Plymouth for a day that anyone present will never forget. We held a big fans meeting followed by the game, which Argyle won. That Unity and solidarity will stay with Argyle fans forever. Pompey and other Clubs have also seen fans reunited days held for them.
For me, though, no plight is as desperate as your own. I have always seen Hereford as a proper Football Club. A Football League Club. I know how much Argyle means to me. I know therefore how much the Bulls mean to you. Players, Managers and Boards come and go. Hereford United is alive because whilst its fans via the Trust keep faith then it never dies.
I would very much like to work with your trust and organise a Fans Reunited day for Hereford. We could perhaps have a big supporters meeting, march to the ground and then protest outside the gates at 3pm on the day of a match.
Football isn’t about players on £200,000 a week it is about normal working people standing on the terraces at Edgar Street spending their hard earned money supporting a Club that means everything to them.
Let’s get this idea off the ground (I have already written about in a Plymouth paper) and lets contact every Club in the land. Hereford United cannot die and Football needs to show it cares. I look forward to hearing for your Trust. You can follow bits I am doing for you on twitter @Chris_Webb1
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| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:40 am | |
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Dick Trickle
Posts : 2622 Join date : 2014-02-15
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:03 pm | |
| But....their protest is not to attend Edgar Street until the present regime has gone. What's he going to do....march around ten times blowing trumpets and hoping it will fall down. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:04 pm | |
| - Tringreen wrote:
- Dear oh Dear................Self promoting user speaks.
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2014
Proposal For Fans Reunited Day At Hereford By Organic Bull
Chris Webb is the President of Plymouth Argyle and has been watching what's been happening at Hereford United with great interest.
Hi there. My name is Chris and for my sins I am the President of the greatest team in the World (although I am sure a few Bulls fans will disagree), Plymouth Argyle.
Some of you may be aware that in 2011, Argyle were in administration and nearly fell out of the Football League and more importantly came within millimetres of liquidation.
We, like you were able to unite the supporters behind the Fans’ Trust and a fundraising Organisation named The Green Taverners. We raised thousands of pounds to support the unpaid staff and players whilst creating a hostile, passionate and innovative campaign that ultimately saved Argyle. We did many of the same things that I am sure your Trust is undertaking – Putting pressure on the media, using social media, coordinating activity via fans forums, match day protests (although hard given the boycott, I know) and ultimately threatening to legally and peacefully picket the properties of the main characters involved in the administration.
Eventually. After 10 long, hard and bitter months a local man, James Brent stepped forward and saved the Club.
The purpose of my post is to highlight what was a key moment. Towards the end of administration, A Fans Reunited event was organised by Brighton (An Argyle fan originally started Fans United to help save Brighton in the 90s). Hundreds of supporters from Clubs across the UK came to Plymouth for a day that anyone present will never forget. We held a big fans meeting followed by the game, which Argyle won. That Unity and solidarity will stay with Argyle fans forever. Pompey and other Clubs have also seen fans reunited days held for them.
For me, though, no plight is as desperate as your own. I have always seen Hereford as a proper Football Club. A Football League Club. I know how much Argyle means to me. I know therefore how much the Bulls mean to you. Players, Managers and Boards come and go. Hereford United is alive because whilst its fans via the Trust keep faith then it never dies.
I would very much like to work with your trust and organise a Fans Reunited day for Hereford. We could perhaps have a big supporters meeting, march to the ground and then protest outside the gates at 3pm on the day of a match.
Football isn’t about players on £200,000 a week it is about normal working people standing on the terraces at Edgar Street spending their hard earned money supporting a Club that means everything to them.
Let’s get this idea off the ground (I have already written about in a Plymouth paper) and lets contact every Club in the land. Hereford United cannot die and Football needs to show it cares. I look forward to hearing for your Trust. You can follow bits I am doing for you on twitter @Chris_Webb1
Some interesting lies there from Webb. That is not what happened at all was it? |
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Tringreen
Posts : 10917 Join date : 2011-05-10 Age : 74 Location : Tring
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:25 pm | |
| It's amazing what janner wannabes will do when a 'local' businessman has looked them in the eyes and put stars into their eyes. Self promoting, devious, bullying but essentially thick oiks.................. or should that be oinks ?
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jabba the gut ecfc
Posts : 370 Join date : 2011-09-07
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:26 pm | |
| Wow. Keep checking the site guys. Perfectly reasonable comments attacking Brent and Webb are being removed by the bucketload. What the hell is going on in your city? |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:27 pm | |
| - Dick Trickle wrote:
- But....their protest is not to attend Edgar Street until the present regime has gone. What's he going to do....march around ten times blowing trumpets and hoping it will fall down.
because he is trying to build up interest in his book |
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Tringreen
Posts : 10917 Join date : 2011-05-10 Age : 74 Location : Tring
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:32 pm | |
| - jabba the gut ecfc wrote:
- Wow. Keep checking the site guys. Perfectly reasonable comments attacking Brent and Webb are being removed by the bucketload. What the hell is going on in your city?
Brent and PCC were repoted to have been in talks re development opportunities in the city , well before admin I believe. How the local rag was brought onside is open to conjecture. Transparency my arse ! |
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jabba the gut ecfc
Posts : 370 Join date : 2011-09-07
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:43 pm | |
| - Tringreen wrote:
- I hope someone, or ideally some of us can do what Jabba suggests on Hereford forums.Well constructed and reasoned posts, not basic anti Webb rantings.
Are there any links and can we join ? Unfortunately not. They've disabled registration - IIRC because of trolling by their equivalents of Webb and Nool somewhat ironically (i.e the supporters of Ketye and Agombar/Alpha Finance/Lonsdale). That's why I suggested you do it through me as I sometimes post there and have a long-standing account. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:07 pm | |
| You could start with this, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Most of the posts in the sub forum "The Scandal So Far" refer to the underhand dealings of the super fans and the Pres is right up there with them. In the infamous Greenman Posts it exposes The Pres for using anonymous accounts to troll fans on here, attack the trust and side with the owners vision of fan engagement "The Gas board" LMFAO (how did that turn out then The Greenman?) Chris Webb is an awful self publicist, that is his goal in life, to be someone, he will happily turn on his principles (yeh I know, I know) in an instant to cosy up to the establishment. If the fans voted on who the President should be then Webb wouldn't get within a million miles of the post, he was elected by Brent in thanks for gaining him control of the club. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:12 pm | |
| - Iggy wrote:
- You could start with this,
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Most of the posts in the sub forum "The Scandal So Far" refer to the underhand dealings of the super fans and the Pres is right up there with them. In the infamous Greenman Posts it exposes The Pres for using anonymous accounts to troll fans on here, attack the trust and side with the owners vision of fan engagement "The Gas board" LMFAO (how did that turn out then The Greenman?) Chris Webb is an awful self publicist, that is his goal in life, to be someone, he will happily turn on his principles (yeh I know, I know) in an instant to cosy up to the establishment. If the fans voted on who the President should be then Webb wouldn't get within a million miles of the post, he was elected by Brent in thanks for gaining him control of the club. Worth mentioning aswell that his proud title of joint greatest jannar was awarded via a protest vote (most came from us) and not due to any affection from plymouthians. |
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jabba the gut ecfc
Posts : 370 Join date : 2011-09-07
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:33 pm | |
| I've just realised that Tring's link is from the Bulls News blog, which is very influential source for Hereford fans. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]If I was in your position I'd be emailing the owner to set him straight about this self-aggrandising, carpetbagging leech. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:38 pm | |
| - jabba the gut ecfc wrote:
- I've just realised that Tring's link is from the Bulls News blog, which is very influential source for Hereford fans.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
If I was in your position I'd be emailing the owner to set him straight about this self-aggrandising, carpetbagging leech. for all the faults THE chris webb has he isnt totally foolish he would have wised up the owner of that pre warning him of slanderist comments from non argyle fans. Just ask Peggy what his influence is like.
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:40 pm | |
| there doesnt seem to be a contact address on the site. sorry im abit thick with computers
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jabba the gut ecfc
Posts : 370 Join date : 2011-09-07
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:44 pm | |
| You're telling me. "EMAIL US" is written in massive brown letters on the right hand side just above the blog archive. yertiz anyway. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
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jabba the gut ecfc
Posts : 370 Join date : 2011-09-07
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:46 pm | |
| - Angry wrote:
- jabba the gut ecfc wrote:
- I've just realised that Tring's link is from the Bulls News blog, which is very influential source for Hereford fans.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
If I was in your position I'd be emailing the owner to set him straight about this self-aggrandising, carpetbagging leech. for all the faults THE chris webb has he isnt totally foolish he wouldnt have wised up the owner of that pre warning him of slanderist comments from non argyle fans. Just ask Peggy what his influence is like. Just set out the facts. That's all you can do. The only alternative is to let him have a free shot and that is to nauseating for words. |
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| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:53 pm | |
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Tringreen
Posts : 10917 Join date : 2011-05-10 Age : 74 Location : Tring
| Subject: Re: Chris Webb brown nosing Hereford fans Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:12 pm | |
| - jabba the gut ecfc wrote:
- I've just realised that Tring's link is from the Bulls News blog, which is very influential source for Hereford fans.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
If I was in your position I'd be emailing the owner to set him straight about this self-aggrandising, carpetbagging leech. It's [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Am trying to mail them now. |
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