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PostSubject: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySat Aug 23, 2014 9:41 pm

for me personally, long ago.................. but surely the penny has dropped that this Avivafesting, lacking in inspiration and class, excuse for a city football club is getting beyond a joke.

You can talk the talk and rattle buckets til the cows come home but the governance and ethos of the club is fatally flawed.

The combination of owner, jamboys and sullen Shez is a joke.

Enjoy the ride, if you're a plank .
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySat Aug 23, 2014 9:49 pm

Super-fans sat in the directors box is all the rage these days ill have ye know !
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 12:16 am

How did we get on today?

Ok, I know!

However the interest levels are not the same as they were!
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 9:52 am

The Warnock debate resumes....

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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 10:07 am

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The Warnock debate resumes....

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If Brent wont invest in the team Neil Warnock wont entertain a second stint.
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 10:57 am

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If Brent wont invest in the team Neil Warnock wont entertain a second stint.

He's right you know ! Shocked 
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 1:41 pm

So what do you think should be done to remedy the situation Tring?
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 2:26 pm

Brent wouldn't even invest in Neil Warnock, let alone the players he would have asked for!
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 3:31 pm

VillageGreen wrote:
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Amazing how you can agree with every word of throbbers post and it still get on your tits
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 4:14 pm

Hugh Watt wrote:
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Amazing how you can agree with every word of throbbers post and it still get on your tits


 lol! 

Must admit that when the agreementwithsmiffyometer touches agreement levels,then self doubt does creep in.We haven't seen the old boy on here for a while,expect he'll be back at some stage.
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 4:21 pm

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So what do you think should be done to remedy the situation Tring?

No idea, dear boy. I think it's now such a mess wherever you look, that only new owners of some substance and ambition could turn the club's fortunes around.
The chances of that happening now, given the parlous state the club is in, are probably negligible.

The unholy alliance of the reluctant one, the council, the 'erald and the bucket rattling superfans, is as depressing as it is predictably putrid for the football club. Chuck in a most uninspiring team manager, his ramshackle collection of backroom staff and failure is the almost certain outcome.

Another season of crap and even the Aviva foot soldiers will start to lose interest.
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 4:33 pm

People didn't believe me when I said how empty the terraces were after Dan the Mans tenure was coming to an end, that it hasn't happened yet is down to loyalty to the club not the incumbent owner, the restraint of fans angst towards Brent is what I can't understand, imagine this being put up with at Pompey, Leeds or Noocastle?
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People didn't believe me when I said how empty the terraces were after Dan the Mans tenure was coming to an end, that it hasn't happened yet is down to loyalty to the club not the incumbent owner, the restraint of fans angst towards Brent is what I can't understand, imagine this being put up with at Pompey, Leeds or Noocastle?

I would take Dan back in a flash over the reluctant one.
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 4:38 pm

You obviously don't remember 0 0 at home to the mighty Oxford on a dreary Tuesday night to a crowd of about 2500 with the clarity that I do, it was feckin dire.
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 4:45 pm

couldnt be any worse then what we have now
And Dan would not have tolerated idiots like newell and webb inside the sweetie shop.
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 7:32 pm

Tha attendance figures have held up to 6/7k for two reasons imo. One is the result of recent Championsip football and the other is the bucket rattling, 'everybody wanting to be someone' culture encouraged by the reluctant one. He knows the nature of the beast and he feeds their ambition. It keeps the bucket rattling going, the tents full and above all else, helps keep the questioning and any organised criticism to a minimum.
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 8:51 pm

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couldnt be any worse then what we have now
And Dan would not have tolerated idiots like newell and webb inside the sweetie shop.

Tolerated Idiots apart what we have now shows immense promise.

We have real options upfront now with Morgan (who I don't think is half as bad as everybody else seems to), Reid, Banton, Thomas, Alessandra and Smalley. That's almost an array of talent and I reckon most teams in this division would bite your hand off for them as a front 3 (and back-up) and we have a genuinely talented goalie.

It's the gap between them that worries with the full backs concerning me most of all.

But it is a team of strangers, relatively speaking, and they'll need a while to bed in as a cohesive unit but I am hopeful, edging towards confident, that they will.

We have problems, fore shore, but the worst of them do not reside on the pitch.
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 9:07 pm

I think we have some decent players and will go up this year. I like Sheridan, he's not the problem at the club.
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 9:19 pm

Sir Francis Drake wrote:
Punchdrunk wrote:
couldnt be any worse then what we have now
And Dan would not have tolerated idiots like newell and webb inside the sweetie shop.

Tolerated Idiots apart what we have now shows immense promise.

We have real options upfront now with Morgan (who I don't think is half as bad as everybody else seems to), Reid, Banton, Thomas, Alessandra and Smalley. That's almost an array of talent and I reckon most teams in this division would bite your hand off for them as a front 3 (and back-up) and we have a genuinely talented goalie.

It's the gap between them that worries with the full backs concerning me most of all.

But it is a team of strangers, relatively speaking, and they'll need a while to bed in as a cohesive unit but I am hopeful, edging towards confident, that they will.

We have problems, fore shore, but the worst of them do not reside on the pitch.

Two things most other clubs signed new players too and they've got more than 4 points From 4 games.
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 9:20 pm

I think we have some decent players and could go up this year. I like Sheridan, he's not the problem at the club.

Just edging back from Womble's position a little but he and I are not so far apart.


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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 9:23 pm

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Punchdrunk wrote:
couldnt be any worse then what we have now
And Dan would not have tolerated idiots like newell and webb inside the sweetie shop.

Tolerated Idiots apart what we have now shows immense promise.

We have real options upfront now with Morgan (who I don't think is half as bad as everybody else seems to), Reid, Banton, Thomas, Alessandra and Smalley. That's almost an array of talent and I reckon most teams in this division would bite your hand off for them as a front 3 (and back-up) and we have a genuinely talented goalie.

It's the gap between them that worries with the full backs concerning me most of all.

But it is a team of strangers, relatively speaking, and they'll need a while to bed in as a cohesive unit but I am hopeful, edging towards confident, that they will.

We have problems, fore shore, but the worst of them do not reside on the pitch.

Two things most other clubs signed new players too and they've got more than 4 points From 4 games.

Nobody ever won a league, or was relegated, after 4 games.

4 points from 4 games is barely adequate. Carry on like that and we'll have 46 points and probably be relegated.

I expect us to improve.
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 9:32 pm

I expect a relegation dogfight, a Devon relegation double with Exeter is a real possibilty. Promotion under Brent will never happen imo.
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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 9:45 pm

I don't think Brent genuinely gives a toss either way but appreciates that relegation would be a PR disaster for him.

As for whether he actually wants promotion... I guess that depends on how his spreadsheets add up.
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Its all about money and what he can make without forking out!

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PostSubject: Re: Enough was enough...............   Enough was enough............... EmptySun Aug 24, 2014 10:14 pm

Sir Francis Drake wrote:
I don't think Brent genuinely gives a toss either way but appreciates that relegation would be a PR disaster for him.

As for whether he actually wants promotion... I guess that depends on how his spreadsheets add up.


And if we are in an automatic or playoff position for the last 2 or 3 homes games of the season and the ground is sold out he runs the risk of the old capacity chestnut blowing up in his face which could also lead to uncontrollable lip quivering bounce 
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