Tring Aviva Alert - Pompey Party

FFS how low have we sunk?

Aviva's

I'm going to Pompey to have a day away from the children, be on the pop from early doors and meet up with a couple of skates and hopefully Jock and Tivvy.

Will I be celebrating the 11th vs 12th dogshit division play off? No.

Didn't some idiot try and get US to sink the Pompey chimes when we played them one time?

3 guesses at the name of that wanker then!

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Dick Trickle wrote:

FFS how low have we sunk?

Aviva's

I'm going to Pompey to have a day away from the children, be on the pop from early doors and meet up with a couple of skates and hopefully Jock and Tivvy.

Will I be celebrating the 11th vs 12th dogshit division play off? No.

Sort of with you there Trick - wear bunting in the pub i'm meeting my Pumpy mates in and I'll be fighting my way out on my arse!!

Dick Trickle wrote:

FFS how low have we sunk?

Aviva's

I'm going to Pompey to have a day away from the children, be on the pop from early doors and meet up with a couple of skates and hopefully Jock and Tivvy.

Will I be celebrating the 11th vs 12th dogshit division play off? No.

stuff the party. we know we're shit, lets get drunk    

Yea Man wrote:

Didn't some idiot try and get US to sink the Pompey chimes when we played them one time?

Don't know who you mean

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Don't know who you mean

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On that same funny page

Dougie wrote:

Yea Man wrote:

Didn't some idiot try and get US to sink the Pompey chimes when we played them one time?

Don't know who you mean

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I saw the thread Dick. Didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

Everyone does that for the last game of the season - it's traditional. Hopefully, if the stadium is full of people in scooby doo onesies and bananaman outfits, there won't be any crowd trouble - how could you swing a punch at someone riding a Bernie Clifton style ostrich?
It's a laugh.
Obviously for some people, they attend in a Motson sheepskin armed with a notebook to jot down tactics.

'Everyone' didn't / doesn't feel the need to wear fancy dress at the end of a season. Suppose if you've been taken for an idiot, you might as well look like one.

Tringreen wrote:

'Everyone' didn't / doesn't feel the need to wear fancy dress at the end of a season. Suppose if you've been taken for an idiot, you might as well look like one.

Grump...Grump

I'm not often far off in my assessments of situations or people, even if I've never met them. The bigger picture is something that appears to elude most people, particularly where football and their club is concerned. Some actually can see it but for reasons of personal gain and ego, prefer to delude themselves.

From about 4 min 40secs in Holloway confirms what I was saying, time and time again on the farm. I was banned for it and Holloway left Argyle as predicted. It still annoys me......... grump grump.

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I'm not often far off in my assessments of situations or people, even if I've never met them. The bigger picture is something that appears to elude most people, particularly where football and their club is concerned. Some actually can see it but for reasons of personal gain and ego, prefer to delude themselves.

From about 4 min 40secs in Holloway confirms what I was saying, time and time again on the farm. I was banned for it and Holloway left Argyle as predicted. It still annoys me......... grump grump.

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Holloway was the one manager in many a year who could have taken us all the way to the top flight.

As usual though the ambition wasn't there and the rest is history.

I've endured this fatal addiction to Argyle for over 50 years but the last decade and the going nowhere Avivafest the club has now become, only interests me in a morbid way.
How anyone can actually enjoy the experience and retain any positivity for the future is quite beyond me. It takes all sorts I suppose and being physically far away, does help.
From the owner, through the board, the media people, the superfans, the manager and players, the bucket rattlers, to the janners in the tent, it's all so small and needy. In fact it's village.

Villages are fine - there is a sense of community, trust, supportiveness, creativity, encouragement, welcome.... I'll stop there. Of course there are drawbacks but in my experience the positives far outweigh the negatives. In my experience when Brits live abroad they simply create their own ex-pat villages & recreate a UK home from home, rarely going outside their cosy ex-pat life to be challenged by local people.

Drinking Guinness and watching the prem. down the local taverna, as English a fish and chips.

Tringreen wrote:

I've endured this fatal addiction to Argyle for over 50 years but the last decade and the going nowhere Avivafest the club has now become, only interests me in a morbid way.
How anyone can actually enjoy the experience and retain any positivity for the future is quite beyond me. It takes all sorts I suppose and being physically far away, does help.
From the owner, through the board, the media people, the superfans, the manager and players, the bucket rattlers, to the janners in the tent, it's all so small and needy. In fact it's village.

For me, an Argyle home game has in the last few years become what an Argyle away trip always was/is - a great day on the lash rudely interrupted by 90 minutes of 'football' before normal service is resumed post-5pm. In years gone by I'd say it was a 50/50 split between looking forward to the pub and going to the match. These days, a substantial lunchtime session is very often a prerequisite just to endure what has been served up on the pitch.

Weather forecast is ropey tomorrow. Shame cos' last home game of the season always usually means a drinking tour of the Brit Mutley RWY and the Barbi - but not necessarily in that order!

You're correct about the expat thing, dear boy. I avoid those enclaves like the plague.

Borrowed....... 'Village mentality'.

When the general population of an area [or football club] they live in become so wrapped up in eachother and eachothers' lives that they completely forget that an outside world actually exists.

They may also reject new ideas and alienate anyone from the outside world and look upon them as a possible Viking invader [educated wanker].

There will most certainly be a hierarchy of who to know and who not to know with potentially hazardous results if you were to befriend the "wrong people".

Fortunately if you find yourself in this hellish situation you will also be aware that an outside world does actually exist with people who have diverse and open minds and are prepared to move on with the times as to secure a better world for future generations.

The very fact that you and only you in a whole town of interbred misfits know of such a place gives you the power to pack your bags and get the **** out of there before your brain stops working and you begin to resemble something from the walking dead.

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Czarcasm wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

I've endured this fatal addiction to Argyle for over 50 years but the last decade and the going nowhere Avivafest the club has now become, only interests me in a morbid way.
How anyone can actually enjoy the experience and retain any positivity for the future is quite beyond me. It takes all sorts I suppose and being physically far away, does help.
From the owner, through the board, the media people, the superfans, the manager and players, the bucket rattlers, to the janners in the tent, it's all so small and needy. In fact it's village.

For me, an Argyle home game has in the last few years become what an Argyle away trip always was/is - a great day on the lash rudely interrupted by 90 minutes of 'football' before normal service is resumed post-5pm. In years gone by I'd say it was a 50/50 split between looking forward to the pub and going to the match. These days, a substantial lunchtime session is very often a prerequisite just to endure what has been served up on the pitch.

Weather forecast is ropey tomorrow. Shame cos' last home game of the season always usually means a drinking tour of the Brit Mutley RWY and the Barbi - but not necessarily in that order!

No doubt, I'd be in the same pedalo if still in the area. Your good self, along with others like Greenskin know the score but are powerless through location, not to make the best of a bad job.

I'd love to be exiled somewhere abroad permanently too Tring. It'd certainly take care of having to endure the Argyle 'experience'. I was in the Canaries at Easter and I don't think I realised it was even a Saturday, let alone having to kiss bye bye to £21 for the pleasure of witnessing another home defeat to Oxford. I'll be easing myself into the 14/15 season in August with a fortnight in Greece!  

Yea Man wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

I'm not often far off in my assessments of situations or people, even if I've never met them. The bigger picture is something that appears to elude most people, particularly where football and their club is concerned. Some actually can see it but for reasons of personal gain and ego, prefer to delude themselves.

From about 4 min 40secs in Holloway confirms what I was saying, time and time again on the farm. I was banned for it and Holloway left Argyle as predicted. It still annoys me......... grump grump.

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Holloway was the one manager in many a year who could have taken us all the way to the top flight.

As usual though the ambition wasn't there and the rest is history.

Maybe he would have. Maybe he wouldn't.

I've said this before, and no doubt I'll bore myself rigid by having to say it again at some stage, but Holloway was backed by the board and long before he toddled off leaving a trail of lies ("Leicester? Poppycock!" remember?) in his wake he was spending money above what the club could afford and the club had been running at a "controllable loss" for some time. Holloway signed Fallon, Halmosi and Easter all of whom either beat or equalled our transfer record. He also signed SEB for, for us, a significant sum. So, I contend, Holloway was backed by the board as far as they were able.

Obviously he wasn't backed as far as he wanted to be or he would have stayed but how much more would it have cost to back him as he wanted to be backed? And even then there's no knowing if it would have worked.

I know people will say "he did it at Blackpool". But Blackpool racked up £20m in debt along the way (since reclaimed by the Chairman who is now widely reviled but was a heroic inspiration then). Blackpool are now in a huge mess.

Holloway left a mess behind him here, a mess behind him at Blackpool and a mess behind him at Leicester... It's almost as though he sets trends!

If Holloway had been given unlimited backing I am pretty certain that we could have gone up but wouldn't that be the case for any manager?

trouble with that statement is blackpool had their time at the top table for £20million, whereas argyle racked up £17 million and made it to the dizzy lows of division four

True. Blackpool had their day in the sun and we never did but let's wait and see where Blackpool bottom out before we finally assess their plight.

Racking up £17m of debt and still failing abysmally was quite an achievement when you think of it!

Juust imagine if Blackpool's £20m had not resulted in PL football... They'd've been equally as stuffed as we were.