Nigey wipes the floor with Clegg

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Great debate I thought, must put Nigey in the frame to replace Clegg as the next deputy PM.

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It's obvious that we need 'one of us' in power. You know, that multi-millionaire broker who smokes a fag and holds a pint. That guy who keeps having to fire people from his party due to them being feckin lunatics. I'd rather have the bnp as the 'monster raving nutjob' protest vote than these Daily Mail darlings - some people take them seriously. At least with the bnp it was just the knuckle-dragging racists.
We are no longer at war with the Germans or the French.

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hairy j wrote:: It's obvious that we need 'one of us' in power. You know, that multi-millionaire broker who smokes a fag and holds a pint. That guy who keeps having to fire people from his party due to them being feckin lunatics. I'd rather have the bnp as the 'monster raving nutjob' protest vote than these Daily Mail darlings - some people take them seriously. At least with the bnp it was just the knuckle-dragging racists.
We are no longer at war with the Germans or the French.

As usual Hairy shows no grasp of the essentials.

Camoron = Silver spoon in mouth never had a proper job

Cleggy = Silver spoon in mouth never had a proper job

Red Ed = Silver spoon in mouth never had a proper job

Nigey = Worked his own ticket in cut throat industry for years.

He is right that we are no longer at war with the French and Germans, no, membership of the EU has eviscerated us to a point where we have already lost the war.

Interesting too that he would pick on Nigey for sacking the odd nutbag while the others let them stay, let's not forget that the only party an ex BNP member cannot join is UKIP.

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I genuinely give up. You've won. You're so right wing and blnd, you should be a linesman for league2.

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hairy j wrote:: I genuinely give up. You've won. You're so right wing and blnd, you should be a linesman for league2.

Great riposte, good to see all that effort to gain a degree (snigger) wasn't wasted.

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hairy j wrote:: I genuinely give up. You've won. You're so right wing and blnd, you should be a linesman for league2.

League 2 lino's are right wing? Shocked

Subject: Re: Nigey wipes the floor with Clegg Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:59 pm

Farage is a fookin moron.

So is Clegg.

Err...

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Should imagine UKIP will do well in the next general election, well enough to get at least one seat anyway

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The last research I heard suggested that UKIP were taking voters from Labour more than from the Tories. Whether that translates to election votes is another matter. Not a day goes past without yet another nutter being shown up in UKIP - surely they can't make any significant inroads!

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Whether you are a UKIP supporter or not, Nigey did indeed wipe the floor with Clegg and I suspect that's why both the Conservatives and the Labour Party bottled the debate.

Clegg went for far too many cheap shots because he seemed unable to respond to Farage's blunt and direct response to the questions and comments so Clegg concentrated on the fear factor and threats of potential doom and gloom should the UK leave the Europeans to their own financial state and he done so without hardly producing a single fact. That was Clegg’s mistake, he isn’t dealing with a 1930’s uneducated public these days and the public saw straight through him to the insincere soft centre that he really is.

So, as someone that sits in a state of confusion regarding Europe and also as someone that sits slightly left of centre politically with socialistic view points and sympathies, that sums up the debate pretty well to me so far. On one hand we have the three traditional parties wanting to remain in Europe for their own reasons that range from the Tories capitalist thirst for corrupted greed, to Labour’s European socialism through the back door, neither seem to be concerned about what is best for the Joe Average, tax paying UK citizen.

The only thing that I am surprised about is that nobody in ‘that’ debate or elsewhere has raised the racism card yet, it used to be the favourite slur of the day so what happened to that?

I am really not sure where my vote would go. My socialistic values tell me to stay in this most financially corrupt organisation that man has ever known, yet my intense dislike of public corruption instinct tells me to run a million miles from it.

If there were to be a referendum tomorrow then I would probably vote to leave Europe to their corrupted gains as a vote to stay within a corrupted Europe may just as well be a vote in favour of the Mafia.

Corruption today within Europe seems almost unstoppable, I dread to think where that corruption may lead tomorrow with a vote of confidence and what wars will be fought in the name individual capitalistic greed dressed up as freedom.

You may well be right Knecht, I am a lifetime Labour voter.

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UKIP are the same as the Green party a few years ago, the government then had to turn towards Green votes to show they cared, where are the greens now?

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Iggy wrote:: UKIP are the same as the Green party a few years ago, the government then had to turn towards Green votes to show they cared, where are the greens now?

9th in Div2.

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Have I read all of that? You're joking!

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knecht wrote:: The last research I heard suggested that UKIP were taking voters from Labour more than from the Tories. Whether that translates to election votes is another matter. Not a day goes past without yet another nutter being shown up in UKIP - surely they can't make any significant inroads!

How can people be so dim as to be taken in by all this meeja created nonsense?

The entire meeja plus all the LibLabCon spin machines have been digging for all they are worth and what have they come up with?

A couple or three spanners with a screw or two loose and a couple of closet racists, do you really believe there are none carrying a card for the LibLabCon?

Just today we have had a Senior Tory with the ear of the PM, not some first term councilor in outer tw@manshire, outed for asking his illegal immigrant rent boy to buy him class A drugs.

The good news is that all this pathetic attempted mud raking is actually turning people off the LibLabCon and on to the new under dog, the process itself could easily be bringing more support to UKIP than the numbers finally working out what a bunch of unelected war mongers are running the EUSSR.

The best part of the post debate fall out was the way the mainstream meeja of all flavours came out saying how well Cleggy had done only to be slapped proper in the muey by the first polls of the actual public reaction.

Now before Mapperley gets his tar and feathers out I fell I should point out yet again that I am not a big fan of the UKIP beyond a couple or three of their somewhat vague policies, out of the EU, severe brake on unregulated immigration and a serious look at MoD procurement with an overhaul of Defence policy i.e. No more excursions to the Sandpit or anywhere else that specific UK interest were not involved, no more lap dogging for Bammy.

No, I am definitely no "big fan", I just hate the LibLabCon with an absolute passion and would back anybody that offered any kind of alternative, yes, even the Greens.

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knecht wrote:: The last research I heard suggested that UKIP were taking voters from Labour more than from the Tories.

Care to slip a citation in for that or do you just think you recall it?

Or is your idea of "research" asking a couple of the other be-sandled beardies down your local?

The issue many of the pollsters ignore is whether the people they are asking do actually have any real predilection toward a particular political party beyond having voted for them at some point in the past, Ashcroft's stuff tries a bit harder than most but certainly doesn't tick many of the appropriate significance boxes imho. People are not natural Tories because they voted for Major in '92 or Camoron last time out, neither are the sheep who voted for Bliar the baby killer necessarily "Labour" voters while the just short of SEVEN MILLION who put thei X agin Cleggy's Cnuts in 2010 would most certainly not be "Liberals" whereas one would concede they were definitely "Dims".

Subject: Re: Nigey wipes the floor with Clegg Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:10 pm

Nigel Farage: Who Are You?

Documentary Channel 4 8pm tonight

According to some commentators, Nigel Farage could lead UKIP to victory at the European elections in May, and yet, only a few years ago, he was largely unheard of. In a programme filmed over the course of six months, producer and director Martin Durkin finds out more about a man who is becoming a major force in British politics. On a journey full of incident, the controversial politician visits his favourite watering holes in the City of London and sneaks the film crew into the Euro Parliament - only to be swiftly ejected

I had a phone call from the Labour Party last week,
Three questions they asked me, before they put the phone down.

Who did you vote for last time?
Who would you vote for in the next election?
Who would you vote for if an election were call for tomorrow?

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Tgwu wrote:: Who would you vote for if an election were call for tomorrow?

Do you suppose that Liebore didnt notice when they made it a fixed term Parliament?

I'm not shore "winning" the Euros means a great deal, Westminster is where it is at if we are ever to get out of the EU, I 4-1 feel that making solid progress in the locals on the same day is more important in any long term plan to force a referendum, mocking Rumpy Pumpy in the chamber in Brussels makes for good YouTube figures but real political cred has to be earned by performing on councils over a period of time.

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Farage himself is claiming votes are coming from "Old Labour" & the non-voters. He's also "proud" that he's picking up the BNP vote ..... hmmmm.

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Farage himself is claiming votes are coming from "Old Labour" & the non-voters. He's also "proud" that he's picking up the BNP vote ..... hmmmm.

A Huffy Post reader, might have known, classic case of the blind leading the blind.

"The last research I heard suggested that UKIP were taking voters from Labour more than from the Tories."

That was what you posted, it was, is and will remain drivel, i.e. You made it up to suit your lame prejudices in the sure and certain knowledge that nobody would challenge it, so that was twice you were wrong. Which is fine, most people do make things up because they are too dim or too lazy to get it right.

Old Labour with a brain hasn't voted Liebore since '97, true some of them are coming out of the cupboard and seeing Nigey as representing at least a couple or three of their base beliefs, plus he doesn't look like the slimey fecks that have had them over in the past. The largest single group of those intending to vote UKIP are ex Tories, a good sized lump are the disaffected "non voters", some Liebore, some Dims and a fair few Old Labour, plus a minor portion of those who voted Liebore and Dim last time out.

There is no authoritative "research" in the public domain to back up your assertion, ergo, you made it up.

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Farage himself is claiming votes are coming from "Old Labour" & the non-voters. He's also "proud" that he's picking up the BNP vote ..... hmmmm.

To replace the perspective of a "hmmmmm" to an "ahhhh", here's what was said...

"[size=15.199999809265137]What we did, starting with the Oldham by-election in the north of England, is for the first time try and deal with the BNP question by going out and saying to BNP voters; 'if you're voting BNP because you're frustrated, upset, with the changes in your community but you're doing it holding your nose because you don't agree with their racist agenda, come and vote for us'.[/size]

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GOB wrote:: To replace the perspective of a "hmmmmm" to an "ahhhh", here's what was said...

"What we did, starting with the Oldham by-election in the north of England, is for the first time try and deal with the BNP question by going out and saying to BNP voters; 'if you're voting BNP because you're frustrated, upset, with the changes in your community but you're doing it holding your nose because you don't agree with their racist agenda, come and vote for us'.

About time he recognised that there there are hundreds of thousands of votes out there looking for a home.

The ridiculous ban placed on ex BNP members joining UKIP when every other party was happy to welcome them is such an anachronism, the abject fear of being branded racist for offering freedom of expression to people is just so pathetic. To extend that into not actively seeking to represent those disinclined to vote for the LibLabCon is in turn banal, nearly twice as many people voted BNP last time as voted Green, they deserve representation, Nigey should gain support not lose it for standing up for a minority community.