Luton Green

You threw the accusation at me. It was utter bollocks for obvious reasons. And then you expect me to turn around and say, well you got it wrong with me, but every other thing on this site must be true.

This is how it generally goes on this site. An accusation is made, maybe seriously or maybe as a joke. It's latched onto by the usual suspects and eventually repeated so often it becomes deemed as fact. Then someone else steps in and says, hey maybe this isn't actually true, there appears to be zero evidence. And then the usual suspects jump back in and declare you must be a fricken idiot if you don't believe it, that it is absolutely true because we've got all these other none evidence based theories and rumours that have previously become (non) facts through our deluded logic so it must all be absolutely true.

  

spowell92 wrote:

You threw the accusation at me. It was utter bollocks for obvious reasons. And then you expect me to turn around and say, well you got it wrong with me, but every other thing on this site must be true.

This is how it generally goes on this site. An accusation is made, maybe seriously or maybe as a joke. It's latched onto by the usual suspects and eventually repeated so often it becomes deemed as fact. Then someone else steps in and says, hey maybe this isn't actually true, there appears to be zero evidence. And then the usual suspects jump back in and declare you must be a fricken idiot if you don't believe it, that it is absolutely true because we've got all these other none evidence based theories and rumours that have previously become (non) facts through our deluded logic so it must all be absolutely true.

  

I hazard a guess and it's only a guess that you don't like this forum that much.

HD wrote:

spowell92 wrote:

You threw the accusation at me. It was utter bollocks for obvious reasons. And then you expect me to turn around and say, well you got it wrong with me, but every other thing on this site must be true.

This is how it generally goes on this site. An accusation is made, maybe seriously or maybe as a joke. It's latched onto by the usual suspects and eventually repeated so often it becomes deemed as fact. Then someone else steps in and says, hey maybe this isn't actually true, there appears to be zero evidence. And then the usual suspects jump back in and declare you must be a fricken idiot if you don't believe it, that it is absolutely true because we've got all these other none evidence based theories and rumours that have previously become (non) facts through our deluded logic so it must all be absolutely true.

  

I hazard a guess and it's only a guess that you don't like this forum that much.

It has its moments. Unfortunately, and this is in my opinion, it is ruined by the obsession with Mr Newell and the nonsensical rumours that are spout as fact.

spowell92 wrote:

You threw the accusation at me. It was utter bollocks for obvious reasons. And then you expect me to turn around and say, well you got it wrong with me, but every other thing on this site must be true.

This is how it generally goes on this site. An accusation is made, maybe seriously or maybe as a joke. It's latched onto by the usual suspects and eventually repeated so often it becomes deemed as fact. Then someone else steps in and says, hey maybe this isn't actually true, there appears to be zero evidence. And then the usual suspects jump back in and declare you must be a fricken idiot if you don't believe it, that it is absolutely true because we've got all these other none evidence based theories and rumours that have previously become (non) facts through our deluded logic so it must all be absolutely true.

  

non evidence based theory? All I threw out there was an ATD Ninja star or two. What people want to Reid into that is their own prerogative. Me, I call LutonGreen as someone interesting to keeper an eye on. And praps throw ATD Ninja stars at.

Mods, how does the ignore feature work?

You go into control panel, select delete accaint, and then we post everyone of yer pasoti utterances in full an dissect them word for word so its like you never left in the first place like Jameson, Cholwell, B et al.

Mock Cuncher wrote:

You go into control panel, select delete accaint, and then we post everyone of yer pasoti utterances in full an dissect them word for word so its like you never left in the first place like Jameson, Cholwell, B et al.

Mock,you are a caution! I laughed so much that a bit of wee came out!

spowell92 wrote:

Mods, how does the ignore feature work?

Figured it out.  

This "get behind the team" thing is a nonsense. Does anybody go to games with any other intention?

This "forget about off the pitch" thing is just as bad. Are we expected to unthinkingly sleepwalk into a second disaster?

Spowell, Mock is Mock just don't meet him and take your eyes off him. Do that and he will hump your leg. ATD stylee! 

spowell92 wrote:

You threw the accusation at me. It was utter bollocks for obvious reasons. And then you expect me to turn around and say, well you got it wrong with me, but every other thing on this site must be true.

This is how it generally goes on this site. An accusation is made, maybe seriously or maybe as a joke. It's latched onto by the usual suspects and eventually repeated so often it becomes deemed as fact. Then someone else steps in and says, hey maybe this isn't actually true, there appears to be zero evidence. And then the usual suspects jump back in and declare you must be a fricken idiot if you don't believe it, that it is absolutely true because we've got all these other none evidence based theories and rumours that have previously become (non) facts through our deluded logic so it must all be absolutely true.

  

well that escalated quickly.

spowell92 wrote:

You threw the accusation at me. It was utter bollocks for obvious reasons. And then you expect me to turn around and say, well you got it wrong with me, but every other thing on this site must be true.

This is how it generally goes on this site. An accusation is made, maybe seriously or maybe as a joke. It's latched onto by the usual suspects and eventually repeated so often it becomes deemed as fact. Then someone else steps in and says, hey maybe this isn't actually true, there appears to be zero evidence. And then the usual suspects jump back in and declare you must be a fricken idiot if you don't believe it, that it is absolutely true because we've got all these other none evidence based theories and rumours that have previously become (non) facts through our deluded logic so it must all be absolutely true.

  

Well done Spowelly stand your corner. There's actually only one or two arseholes on here they just make a lot of noise. FYI Tring, Ricks you make valid points, its the folks that just slag off everyone elses point of view with insults I don't like

This site confuses me. It's very different from PASOTI and a lot of people are very different.

Can see a few who were banned from there despite basically still claiming they did nothing wrong.

It's not everyone on this site I dislike, just a few.

The rumours being treated like facts are pretty funny though.

Had a look throught he Newell files earlier, what a laugh. Some tosspot actually took the time to make that! Waste of time. Perhaps it was the now banned from Exeweb greenjock? He's like Allah to some of you lot.

UndercoverGreen wrote:

This site confuses me. It's very different from PASOTI and a lot of people are very different.

Can see a few who were banned from there despite basically still claiming they did nothing wrong.

It's not everyone on this site I dislike, just a few.

The rumours being treated like facts are pretty funny though.

Had a look throught he Newell files earlier, what a laugh. Some tosspot actually took the time to make that! Waste of time. Perhaps it was the now banned from Exeweb greenjock? He's like Allah to some of you lot.

don't like it find the door or we could show you one.

Hilarious. I'll say it again because no one listens. I am on the so called hit list, Argyleiggy, I had all my personal details posted on Flicker, plus screenshots of PMs between me and Ian Newell and as a result I had my email and pc hacked. I saw all of it, dozens of others saw it, Newell apologised to me on pasoti, that was seen. Why did he apologise for something he didn't do?

UndercoverGreen wrote:

This site confuses me. It's very different from PASOTI and a lot of people are very different.

Can see a few who were banned from there despite basically still claiming they did nothing wrong.

It's not everyone on this site I dislike, just a few.

The rumours being treated like facts are pretty funny though.

Had a look throught he Newell files earlier, what a laugh. Some tosspot actually took the time to make that! Waste of time. Perhaps it was the now banned from Exeweb greenjock? He's like Allah to some of you lot.

It wasn't a waste of someones time at all.

Another side of Newell has been shown apart from the 'charity' man he likes to portray himself as.

Basically, the guy is a stalking, obsessed, cunning, bullying, lowlife, pathological liar.

And that's on a good day....

Hope spowell doesnt read that !

UndercoverGreen wrote:

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Had a look throught he Newell files earlier, what a laugh. Some tosspot actually took the time to make that! Waste of time. Perhaps it was the now banned from Exeweb greenjock? He's like Allah to some of you lot.

I have no idea at all if all of it is accurate. But I can absolutely, 100%, with no doubt whatsoever, unequivocally state that the Flickr account on which they were based did exist. I hate lies.

knecht wrote:

UndercoverGreen wrote:

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Had a look throught he Newell files earlier, what a laugh. Some tosspot actually took the time to make that! Waste of time. Perhaps it was the now banned from Exeweb greenjock? He's like Allah to some of you lot.

I have no idea at all if all of it is accurate. But I can absolutely, 100%, with no doubt whatsoever, unequivocally state that the Flickr account on which they were based did exist. I hate lies.

I was a member of this forum when the newellgate flickr affair came to light for all to see, the silly moo had the files set as public instead of private. How many more times does this have to be pointed out.

spowell92 wrote:

You threw the accusation at me. It was utter bollocks for obvious reasons. And then you expect me to turn around and say, well you got it wrong with me, but every other thing on this site must be true.

This is how it generally goes on this site. An accusation is made, maybe seriously or maybe as a joke. It's latched onto by the usual suspects and eventually repeated so often it becomes deemed as fact. Then someone else steps in and says, hey maybe this isn't actually true, there appears to be zero evidence. And then the usual suspects jump back in and declare you must be a fricken idiot if you don't believe it, that it is absolutely true because we've got all these other none evidence based theories and rumours that have previously become (non) facts through our deluded logic so it must all be absolutely true.

  

I used to think the same when I was a member of both forums - one forum spoke about football, the other was full of bitterness. I wrote more on Pasoti to be honest.

However since being banned from the apparently open and transparent forum, for no disclosed reason, I am quite partial to reading about the history behind the idiots who run that site. As I wasn't around when the Newell files were exposed. As Rickler says, the same bloke who rattles buckets and auctions stuff for charity, watches games from beside Brent in the director's box, is in fact a nasty piece of work who has crossed several dozen supporters and put them off him for life.

And the fact is this. A lot of the posters on here at one time posted on pasoti were banned for stupid, trumped up reasons. The reason given to me was the because I said posters on ATD were on the whole more intelligent, the moderator told me I should go and post over there then, and banned me. I hadn't realised that speculating on the intelligence of another forum's posters was against the user agreement, or whatever rules they use. So much for being an enlightened well governed forum then. Meanwhile we have to put up with numpties like Lord Tisdale and greensleeves over here, purely because, annoying as they are, they aren't actually breaking any rules or doing any thing wrong - this the supposed anarchic forum where the teachers are out the room, anything goes, everyone is watching porn and being racist, sexist and disgusting (and I am still yet to see any of this by the way).

Given that IJN and PL2 have banned anyone that threatens their clique, a lot on here like myself don't have the right to talk in their playground. I would quite happily say what I post here to their faces, point out their hypocrisies, but instead of having to respond to the likes of me, it became far easier for them to remove the annoying prats who keep calling them out on their bullying and deceptive ways - something you could apply to almost every poster here.

As such there is never a shortage of threads criticising the bullies and the fools circulating the club. They are the same threads IJN didn't want on his pasoti site, so bunched together it looks like a forum full of nutters - however, the proof exists for all of the allegations.

Now those guys could quite easily come here and answer to the posters who routinely 'libel' and 'slander' them, and spread lies 24/7, as IJN constantly alleges. But he never does. He posts responses on Pasoti, locks the topic - and as other Pasoti threads testify, quite a few posters point out they had something to say about one or two lies he has told. One sided discourse packed full of untruths, that do not engage with those who are still upset about the things he has done in the past and denies. So the murky past keeps dragging on, as posters don't tend to forget seeing a screenshot of their home address, telephone and email etc. randomly saved as an image on Ian Newell's flickr account, a bloke they have never met or even spoke to. Why he had it, what he was doing with it has never been explained, only denied, and posters banned.

So Sam, don't think this forum is full of crackpots. It is full of posters who disagree with the bloke's bullying ways. Given that his posts attack the Trust, attack lifelong fans (John Lloyd, a man who has written books about Argyle, who is active in managing the large London Supporters Branch, who has posted on Pasoti since the 1990s - being the latest one) then his horrid behaviour deserves to be pointed out. His political sniping and manouverings need pointing out. Letting him post crap on Pasoti to those who do not know any better, and banning the posters likely to call him out on it won't really do.

Until he comes and discusses his behaviour with these accusers, and stops trying to paint the Trust as the more militant side of Hamas, then people won't spontaneously forget the use of private investigators, and having posters mother's addresses circulated, as just two examples of the murky world of the post-administration power struggle to be the closest advisors to James Brent.

I agree we need a bit more light hearted football discussion though. Instead of getting uptight why not post a bit more of your footballing thoughts, as everyone here has those too. And skip through some of the Newell stuff if it does your head in, but just realise that the bloke has gone out of his way to upset other Argyle fans in the past, things they are not likely to forget in a heartbeat.

The voice of reason, argue with that I dare you.

I got a posting limit over there for being 'too enthusiastic'.

He will be over here soon telling us how wrong we all are about the club and James Brent!   

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