Whole, Semi Or Skimmed?

seadog wrote:

I catch and eat fish, I eat prawns, modern meat is so fecked up I don't want to eat it.

So your the one in the prawn sandwich brigade   

knecht wrote:

The point is that in order to drink milk cows have to be kept in lactation. The resulting bull calves will be slaughtered after being taken from their mothers. It can't work otherwise.

The resulting bull calfs are also known as beef bullocks, when you have a pedigree Friesian herd then you have a problem because the cattle make such a low weight, this is why they have been trying to get a market for rose veal. If the farmers are not breeding for pedigree milking cows they will cross with a heavier breed for beef. I buy milk and I eat beef from a herd of South Devon cattle, lovely milk and great beef one of the old dual purpose breed both the milk and beef is better yet you don't get the milk production you would with a Holstein. I am an ethical meat eater, I have no problem killing my own meat, venison, rabbit, hare and wildfowl feature heavily on my winter menu. I only eat meat that has been reared outdoors and had a decent free range life. I won't eat cheap pork or poultry which funnily enough I get more trouble for than if I were a vegetarian. I was invited to supper by a friend of mine and refused to eat the Turkey and ham pie that he'd cooked because the turkey was not free range he couldn't understand my stance as he had eaten chicken at my house. I also find it funny that people will tell me that I am cruel because I will kill my own food yet if everybody had to look after some animals and slaughter them or hunt and kill animals in the wild then you would reduce the amount of intensive farming and bad practice massively as people would ask questions about the meat they eat. Anybody that has been in an intensive poultry unit would think twice about munching on that Kentucky fried chicken.

My "wonderful" (  ) ex-wife had a small-holding before I knew her. She had goats, a few sheep, hens & some milk-cows. She said it was that experience of seeing the reality behind the nice cuts of meat sold in shops that made her become a vegetarian.

I used to go on holidays with a group of friends. Two of them were vegetarians. When we offered a load of wild venison for free one ate it with no problem whereas the other refused. The one who ate it said that her objection was the way animals were kept & slaughtered that she objected to but this venison was OK as it had lived a free life and had been despatched by a hunter. The other said she didn't believe in killing animals. But she (and my "wonderful" ex-wife) drank milk and wore wool & leather. I don't mind hypocrisy - I do it myself constantly - it's when people deny that's what they are that pisses me off.

I would happily kill meat that I eat. I hate the people who go all funny and say they could never do that whilst tucking into a plate of meat. Happy to get someone else to do the dirty work behind closed doors but won't face the reality. The closest I've got is ringing the necks of bred pigeons for the pot. It was when they looked me in the eye as I did it that I didn't like.

i have a mate who is vegetarian, he decided after going to a mortuary to draw dead folk on his art course in the early 80's, and noticing the similarity between dead people and dead animals.

me? i'll eat anything as long as it doesnt come from a supermarket

semi skimmed in tea, whole in coffee.

i think the key to eating what you want is to be active

I was recently advised to eat more soya (for health reasons), so have gone back to using soya milk. The vanilla one is beautiful on breakfast cereal. Don't think it would do the business in a hot drink, but then coffee isn't meant to have milk in it anyway.

I could quite easily stop eating meat. I only ever eat chicken or a bit of beef now and then. Oh, and the odd bacon roll.

umm, bacon roll!!! Second thoughts, lets go kill some piggies!!

One of our software contractors has a small holding and keeps pigs, lambs and cattle. He takes them to slaughter when they are past the guideline ages - lambs are 18 months old (hogget I'm told) and the pigs have to be skinned for some bizarre reason cos they are usually a bit on the old side. I eat little meat but I buy some stuff from him and very nice it is too. When one of his piggies was too stressed to get out of the trailer to go into the butchery he took her home.