Argyle's Sponsor in Trouble?

Lord Tisdale wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

Meanwhile over there, everyone is getting pissy about the new shirt choice. Like complaining the deck chairs on the titanic arent upholstered

I've had a look and it does strike me that the old place seems to has lost an awful lot of its critical mass since the last time I ventured forth into the Porkdome.

The farm is soooooooooooooooo boring, all they have left are workshy students, and dull as fook gratefuls! its reached an all time low no alternative view just speccy luv, all the decent posters are long gone.

Sufferedsince68 wrote:

Lord Tisdale wrote:

Hugh Watt wrote:

Meanwhile over there, everyone is getting pissy about the new shirt choice. Like complaining the deck chairs on the titanic arent upholstered

I've had a look and it does strike me that the old place seems to has lost an awful lot of its critical mass since the last time I ventured forth into the Porkdome.

The farm is soooooooooooooooo boring, all they have left are workshy students, and dull as fook gratefuls! its reached an all time low no alternative view just speccy luv, all the decent posters are long gone.

what do we have ?   

I guess in theory Argyle are without a sponsor but I assume that Nikks new company will now negotiate to become the Club's new sponsor or, will the Club go out shopping for a new sponsor and, will Nikks old company be in any debt to the Club? So many questions...

Tis all very confusing but then these sort of things are often intended to be.

GOB wrote:

I guess in theory Argyle are without a sponsor but I assume that Nikks new company will now negotiate to become the Club's new sponsor or, will the Club go out shopping for a new sponsor and, will Nikks old company be in any debt to the Club? So many questions...

Tis all very confusing but then these sort of things are often intended to be.

Bring back ginsters !!

How is sponsorship paid for, in installments or is it all in one hit?

GOB wrote:

How is sponsorship paid for, in installments or is it all in one hit?

Isnt there someone on here who could put these questions to the club out of curiosity ?

PASB?  

GOB wrote:

PASB?  

  
it can't hurt can it ?
yes it maybe a rumour, it may turn out to be false or it may turn out to be true,
I think we as supporters have the right to know if one of our sponsors has gone into admin.
I mean does anyone know how much money FES have pumped into the club ?

It could mean that PAFC have to spend money to remove the FES Branding from Home Park, since FES wont be in a posistion to pay, or will good ole Argyle just keep the signs in place so that people can see who used to be the Sponsor?

Nikk has replied to us via email and states that his company isn't in administration or liquidated? On the other hand I have been told by two different people today that it is.   

Iggy wrote:

Nikk has replied to us via email and states that his company isn't in administration or liquidated? On the other hand I have been told by two different people today that it is.   

I thought it was in the London gazzete or had to be put in there ?

It's quite funny that he has to do everything by an email proxy rather than just sign up to ATD and tell us all himself. Still, better not let his buddy down.   

GOB wrote:

It's quite funny that he has to do everything by an email proxy rather than just sign up to ATD and tell us all himself. Still, better not let his buddy down.   

Wasn't he driven off of here the last time, or came on for a night then self deleted

GOB wrote:

It's quite funny that he has to do everything by an email proxy rather than just sign up to ATD and tell us all himself. .......   

He has offered to do that.

And, non Monsieur Friio. He came on for a short while to answer specific questions and then closed his account.

It should be pointed out that the argument has been that this is simply a technical insolvency as part of the process of a dispute between Mr Barron & his previous directors. An arbitrator has been appointed.

Unless anyone on here has the sort of legal or business knowledge to make informed comments, we should be careful. It's all of our responsibilities to monitor our own posts - not just the mods. We may find that it develops but at this point we don't know.

Iggy wrote:

Nikk has replied to us via email and states that his company isn't in administration or liquidated? On the other hand I have been told by two different people today that it is.   

POI posted a picture of a document earlier which purported to be about FES going tits up, i think he may have self moderated because it was removed not long after. Now i know this site has to tread carefully but i read the document and to my untrained eye it seemed genuine, FFS what is going on ? surely there is someone on here with the knowhow to find out if FES are in trouble or not either through the London Gazette or companies house or some other avenue, all the yes they are, no they're not speculation is becoming tedious, maybe this thread should be locked until there is a definitive answer one way or t'other.      

Davidfriio4 wrote:

GOB wrote:

It's quite funny that he has to do everything by an email proxy rather than just sign up to ATD and tell us all himself. Still, better not let his buddy down.   

Wasn't he driven off of here the last time, or came on for a night then self deleted

Nobody gets 'driven off' here. We put up with all sorts of nutters, David. Nobody gets 'driven off' the farm.They just ban those who disagree with them. This has now largely stopped happening because anyone of any substance still remaining has now either walked, or gone very quiet and the farm controllers would marginalise themselves still further by issuing any further bans. The place is now devoid of any worthwhile debate.
All except Aviva types and wannabes can see what has been going on for years and have had enough of it.

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/ well the answer must be on here.
Maybe we should invite nikk back to answer some questions.

Nikk said that I could use all or part of this email so here it is. My original enquiry to him is below his reply,



Nikk said,
Thanks for getting in touch.
 
The matter is very complex and is the result of a complete breakdown in a business relationship which has unfortunately resulted in the action we have accepted. This has further moved on to some totally vindictive actions beyond my control. Not least of which is sending you a copy of this particular order.
 
I need to be very clear. FES is not in liquidation nor in administration, so obviously it is important that I protect our
position and correct posts that are made claiming this. If this order had not been leaked nobody would be aware of the dispute, as this is not a public matter. If however FES was in liquidation/administration then that would be a public matter and the relevant postings in the Gazette and companies house would be available for all to see.
 
Whilst I am the sole director and 100% shareholder of FES ,I did a short while ago agree to enhance the board after a considerable amount of pressure. However a short while afterwards things were happening that I did not like and I decided to reverse the decision. This caused a great deal of animosity with various ridiculous claims being made to the detriment of FES and myself. Because of the arguments ongoing and particularly over the banking mandates we were simply unable to function on a day to day basis without litigation. This has resulted in a series of claims and counterclaims leading to a hearing on the 3rd and the 10th of this month. I think the confusion as to the position we are in today is caused by reference to the insolvency act, but it is this act that needs to be used and which provides for the appointment of an interim administrator/liquidator. As you know we did not object to this as it seems the only sensible way forward. The firm appointed are entirely neutral in the dispute and take temporary control over the banking and administration and quite naturally seek to protect everything associated with FES. Without this intervention bills/wages etc.would not be paid
 
I am entirely confident that they will conclude over time that "the other side" do not have a valid arguement.
 
So I do understand that seeing the words insolvency, liquidator and administrator can result in people jumping to conclusions but trust you now are clear where we are, which I stress once again is not in liquidation or administration.
 
Please feel free to come back to me with any other questions and I am happy for you to use any or all of this mail on your site if it helps to put peoples minds at rest.
 
 
With kind regards,
 
Nik.


On Thursday, 19 December 2013, 17:40, Mod Account.
Hi Nikk,
I am a little confused this order is a liquidation order is it not? I phoned your office this morning because we received the order by email a couple of days ago, I thought it was a hoax and pulled it when it was posted. I thought that I would check with you as to whether it was genuine or not. Anyway I was told you were not at the office I asked for an email address and was put through to the office. I was told that FES was being liquidated, the locks of the office have been changed and all company credit cards and phones have been taken off you. The post that you made on pasoti the other day looked like you were saying that it was an arbitration matter, this looks like the liquidation of FES. I am more than a little confused.
You have my sympathy if you are experiencing any sort of trouble in your life and I know that you are a fan who has supported the club and more importantly the staff over the last couple of years but this story to me seems to be out there now, me getting threatened with legal action seems like you trying to shoot the messenger. Anyway we have agreed to sit on it for a little while, feel free to have your say through here in confidence in the mean time.
Iggy.

I'm happy with that, FES are in liquidation but not in liquidation.

Watch this space then .

I suggest that it would be advisable to stop contributing to this or any similar threads, until such time as there is a definitive outcome.

Clunk and the bolt is shot. Wise words from the Tringster.

Bumpitty bump.

hairy j wrote:

I guess I'll just watch some of you make cnuts out of yourself then.

Did any body make cnuts out of them self? If so please give names

It's quite enlightening looking back on this thread, as far as some people are concerned.

I particularly like one quote..."what is the point of this thread?"   

Given Nikks email to the mods of the 19th December above its interesting to note that FES was in the hands of an adminstrator as early as the 10th December (see note on other stickier thread for entry in the London Gazette)