Subject: Re: Common Purpose Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:26 pm
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Subject: Re: Common Purpose Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:11 pm
These are the sort of things that get me interested.
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Subject: Re: Common Purpose Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:28 pm
Police are f***ing useless. Meanwhile real crime is being ignored by this pair of pillocks.
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Subject: Re: Common Purpose Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:33 pm
GOB wrote:
These are the sort of things that get me interested.
I watched the first 5 mins or so. I don't know what happened after that. The blogger was absolutely right in what he was saying. But those police were absolutely doing their job. The individual cops are merely the people stuck in the middle - like squaddies sent off to war.
I have had good experience of police. I've had feckin awful experience of the police! (Interestingly, a solicitor I once knew said she wouldn't trust a cop any further than she could throw one .... but then I think the same about solicitors). The individuals aren't necessarily to blame. There are cops who are ass-holes just the same as anybody else. Most of my working-life was spent in & around education & young people. My experience told me that on the whole the people who found their way to the top and decided educational or mental health policywere the people who played the game properly not necessarily the best people. Those at the top got there by being immune to the subtleties of life and the demands upon "ordinary people" - no conspiracy but rather the law of the jungle. I would guess the same goes for the police on the whole. It's the people at the top who should carry the final responsibility. Those cops, stuck on camera and (in the first 5 mins being calm & reasonable - I dunno after that) having their mugshots spread all over the internet are the easy and unfair targets - like squaddies in Afghanistan or the Western Front many years ago. They are the ordinary people just trying to make a living, trying to do what's best & what's expected. It's the bastards at the top - including the relevant politicians like Theresa May or David Blunkett (spit) who should be targeted.
Actually I don't believe in the Bilderberg conspiracies (http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/index.php). That's not say that what goes on behind those closed doors isn't reprehensible. I just think they are individuals who found their way to the top and have lost contact with the real world and the rest of societies support their position. No more heroes any more .... no more know your place. I think it's just the everyday bastards that we meet all over the place who have somehow reached the top who look out only for themselves writ large. There's lots of them about - some of them actually get there. In the end the basis of a good society starts with me and my behaviour not aiming barbs at anyone else.
Vaguely coherent rant over and out.
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Subject: Re: Common Purpose Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:27 am
I don’t believe in the Bilderberg conspiracies either Knecht, but I do believe that a huge proportion of the world is controlled by very few. In fact I know it. I am not suggesting that a group of Freemasons got together and decided to take over the world, I am suggesting that the evolution of capitalism has thrown up a small pedigree of wealthy and powerful people that make decisions that in turn control the world. In time human beings will do what human beings have always done, if they haven’t already, they will give themselves a title and a name because every group of human beings need a hierarchy and names and titles help to create and provide a hierarchy.
So there you have it, maybe the name is wrong but by all intensive purposes the ‘group’ exist because evolution and human nature dictates that it must.
However, that wasn’t the reason for my posting of that video. My interest is the erosion of free expression and the erosion of the ability to question. I agree that the majority of the police are just doing their job but as a German SS Officer once said, “befehl ist befehl” as he sent thousands to the gas chamber. Of course I am not comparing our Police to the SS, but the seeds are remarkably similar and we ignore it at our peril as we continue to live in a country that carries out more surveillance on its own people than any other country in the world. But of course, it’s all just to prevent terrorism, isn't it?
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Subject: Re: Common Purpose Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:51 am
The law is being used more and more by the wealthy of the country to protect their millions, I recently watched a news program that was following an anti poaching team oop north somewhere, this total cnut was explaining how the proles were helping themselves to some of his 15000 strong herd of deer. The Beeb follow with information about how any man and his dog can easily earn about £20k for an evenings work deer poaching. We then follow a team of wildlife officers in six patrol cars, two vans, state of the art night vision equipment and a helicopter spend the weekend searching for these villains. Luckily their viligance paid off, a battered old escort van contains one man, two Lurchers and a dead deer were arrested. This has nothing to do with using resources in a sustainable and cost effective manner, this has everything to do with protecting the property of one individual who has got too much money and property. Deer populations are exploding yet we are paying for the police to spend tens of thousands in one weekend to stop some poor bloke filling his freezer. A local tradition round these parts is charming salmon out of the river using a piece of fencing wire, if you are caught using these shaman like abilities now you will get fined one thousand pounds and have your car confiscated for you first offence and could well go to prison for your second offence yet meanwhile Salmon get netted out in huge numbers off the coast of Ireland legally. The other side of the coin, my old man in his seventies rang the police at 4am one morning to say the house next door to them was being broken into whilst the owners were away on holiday, first he was asked to go and have a look himself, when he said he didn't fancy it they gave him a crime number to pass onto the neighbours when they returned from holiday. We're all in it together my feckin arse.
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Subject: Re: Common Purpose Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:29 am
I read that "Tougher restrictions" are being considered and comes after terror suspect Mohammed Ahmed Mohamed fled from a west London mosque last week disguised in a burka.
Most will read and think "great, this will help to control terrorism". But when you remove the name 'Mohammed' and the words 'terror', 'mosque' and 'burka' and understand that this law isn't just being created for the individual Mohammed Ahmed Mohamed but for ALL citizens and, then pick out the key phrases, you end up with.....
"restrict the movements of people thought to pose a risk to the public"
"The measures include electronic tagging, reporting regularly to the police and facing "tightly defined exclusion from particular places and the prevention of travel overseas"."
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Subject: Re: Common Purpose Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:10 pm
Oooh I like this thread Like pointing out that the registration documents for your vehicle states that you are the registered keeper and not the owner, as apparently all vehicles are owned by the DVLA. Also the land which your property is situated on does not belong to you i.e. if a compulsary purchase order is placed on it you don't have a say in the matter. Here are a few sites you might like to take a look at if you have the time There are many out there that think the same way, educated wankers the lot of em lol [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] This one is also looking into the common purpose [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Another site [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]