Is it time to change the President??

Tgwu wrote:

He has spoken

Chris Webb @Chris_Webb1
like turning around the Titanic. The Club is still in huge debt and it's a noose around our necks. Time to turn it NOW.

Dane Bunney ‏@Bunneydane1981 11h

@Chris_Webb1 you know what I mean. And deep down I expect you agree. But you can't say anything because you live in Brent's ass

We left administration £5m in debt (Brent would certainly have known that to the nearest penny when he took over) and we're still £5m in debt now according to recent PASB minutes. Nothing significant has changed except that we are 2 years or so into a 5 year repayment plan and things haven't improved at all. In fact given that the end of that 5 year period is now much closer than it was it could be argued that things are far, far worse.

What we need, and have needed since Day One, is a credible plan that enables us to meet our obligations and not one predicated on an 8000 average attendance. Presumably there is one because if there isn't then Brent is a complete idiot and every bit as much a fantasist as Heaney was. So what is it?

(And don't point at some fanciful £1-2m "increase in income" from the new stand as being the answer because a) those figures are highly contentious and b) they do not represent profit and c) it is by no means certain that the stand will be built in time (or at even at all) for it to contribute.)

The way forward is likely to be akin to the government's austerity plan: cut harder and further in order to reduce the deficit. The next 3 years are likely to be even worse than the last 2 in terms of money being available for the team (and the country). And just as government policy will be a disaster for the country Brent's plan will be similarly disastrous for the club.

To stretch the analogy a little further all assets will need to be sold to increase income. Brent's sale of the land to the council was Argyle's Post Office privatisation. And Brent grabbing some of that land back represents the deal being done as cheaply, as quickly and as shoddily as possible because desperation for it to be done immediately and at any cost overwhelms common sense and converts a seller's market into a buyer's one.

God knows where the country will be in 3 years time but Argyle will be very, very fortunate to still be in the football league and operating as a professional football club.

Sir Francis, this is the sort of questioning that the PASB and Trust should be demanding answers too. I know the trust have asked in the past and got exiled for their troubles (which in my eyes tells me there is something they touched on that hit to close to home) but some answers are needed now more than ever.

If i was one of those still waiting on my money via the CVA under the impression the club has no money yet the owner of the club is funding a multi million pound HHP complex i would want to know what the hell is going on. Might not be a big issue but it doesnt look good on the outside looking in does it?

Angry wrote:

Sir Francis, this is the sort of questioning that the PASB and Trust should be demanding answers too. I know the trust have asked in the past and got exiled for their troubles (which in my eyes tells me there is something they touched on that hit to close to home) but some answers are needed now more than ever.

If i was one of those still waiting on my money via the CVA under the impression the club has no money yet the owner of the club is funding a multi million pound HHP complex i would want to know what the hell is going on. Might not be a big issue but it doesnt look good on the outside looking in does it?

Exactly.

The club are still in debt yet Brent wants to push on and redevelop the ground.

Why doesn't he become a real football club owner and spend the money getting us debt free and releasing the noose from around the neck?

Oh I get it, he can't because that means Mr and Mrs Brent won't have a nice big fat pot of money to retire on if he did.

punchdrunk wrote:

Peggy wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Anyone with even the tiniest a scrap of honour would have resigned long ago. Therefore, I expect webb to be president right up until b***t (spit) finally slithers away

Correction, Freathy - anybody with even the tiniest scrap of honour would have turned the position down in the first place. Especially if that person claimed to be a socialist.

Whats with all the Socialist Rhetoric on here?
At the same time i dont like to see the poor get shafted in any way shape or form, there surely must be a difference in pay between someone who shows drive, ambition and class as opposed to someone who does nothing and blames the everyone everything for their own shortcomings.
You create your own career in this world i have found.
Go and spend 6 months in some Siberian Gulag and then come back and tell me the merits of Socialism lol.
Conservative me.

I think you will find there is a difference in pay with your so called socialist mantality, just not such a large one. Plus from what I have seen it seems the more you are paid the less you do, but of course not in every case. Also a lot of positions are not based on drive and ambition but more jobs for the boys.

Will the "Socialist" President take a punt with his shares when they sell off the PO and make a shed load of cash, while telling others not to?

Southborne wrote:

Will the "Socialist" President take a punt with his shares when they sell off the PO and make a shed load of cash, while telling others not to?

I would put money on it.

I'll refrain from comment - but this is worth a read

Peggy wrote:

I'll refrain from comment - but this is worth a read

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Southborne wrote:

Will the "Socialist" President take a punt with his shares when they sell off the PO and make a shed load of cash, while telling others not to?

is this the government 'bride' to help privatisation along ?

chris webb shines again lol

Webby hobnobbing at the House of Commons with a Tory MP? Oh dear Christopher.

I'm sure his mate James would approve though.

Chris Webb, 'economical with the truth?'

Must be some mistake.  

When Webb was badgering Colville on Twatter about running away and not facing the music about Royal Mail I had to send a tw@t back offering Colville some details about our esteemed Trade Union martyr that make interesting reading about running away from a situation and not providing information.

Just doing my bit  

99% of royal mail staff as took up the free shares offer and even ask for more, I wonder if the right wing union man as had his shares?

Yes 100%
give the possiion to Romain Laurieu Tommy Tyan or mickey evans

According to our president on Radio Devon today, all staff HAD to accept the free shares, and have to keep them for 3 years. A bit like an Argyle commentary but without Sparksy to chivvy it along.

Dingle wrote:

According to our  president on Radio Devon today, all staff HAD to accept the free shares, and have to keep them for 3 years.  A bit like an Argyle commentary but without Sparksy to chivvy it along.

He could give it charity. Mr Brent could do with a few pounds

Webb's the kind of turncoat and hypocrite to apply for more shares though.

Wanker denies knowing about Greenman now. Yeah right Chris, not so feckin keen on it being out there in twatter land for all to see.

Dingle wrote:

According to our  president on Radio Devon today, all staff HAD to accept the free shares, and have to keep them for 3 years.  A bit like an Argyle commentary but without Sparksy to chivvy it along.

According to radio2 today not all of the employees took the offer.
I think they were the ones that realise £750 (I think that is correct) of shares is not quite the same as having a job
But then again I wouldn't expect the truth to come out of CW mouth

Peggy wrote:

I'll refrain from comment - but this is worth a read

I believe the young people have a word for this response: pwned.

Greenjock wrote:

Webb's the kind of turncoat and hypocrite to apply for more shares though.

Wanker denies knowing about Greenman now. Yeah right Chris, not so feckin keen on it being out there in twatter land for all to see.

I bet he denies being "the spooner" aswell.

Peggy wrote:

I'll refrain from comment - but this is worth a read

So that's the name he uses for the Erald, although he will probably deny it
Funny how they decided to camp outside the MP's offices, I wonder who's idea that was to "unleash the dogs of war"?

Maybe it is time for a vote to ask if the fans want Webb as president?

BUMP !

GOB wrote:

Maybe it is time for a vote to ask if the fans want Webb as president?

What a great idea asking the fans what they think (for once) I can think of a certain French ex goalie who would fit the bill perfectly, e.g has charisma, intelligence and is well liked instead of ........ you all know who I mean.