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LondonGreen wrote:

'The majority in our readers' poll agrees'

This being an unfiltered poll where anyone can vote hundreds of times? The Editor of this paper deserves a kicking for putting this statement on the front page

If ever there were proof needed that the Herald are slotted neatly into Brents top pocket then this is it. Pretty desperate that they've had to use the 'majority' line to try and force this through. It's an amateur local rag anyway and has been going downhill for years, but this will alienate many many more people with misleading tag lines and a headline that doesn't in any way shape or form represent the split in public opinion.

The only people who desperately want this to go through are either thick, easily led, or have something to gain from it. Or a combination of all three.

Czarcasm wrote:

LondonGreen wrote:

'The majority in our readers' poll agrees'

This being an unfiltered poll where anyone can vote hundreds of times? The Editor of this paper deserves a kicking for putting this statement on the front page

If ever there were proof needed that the Herald are slotted neatly into Brents top pocket then this is it. Pretty desperate that they've had to use the 'majority' line to try and force this through. It's an amateur local rag anyway and has been going downhill for years, but this will alienate many many more people with misleading tag lines and a headline that doesn't in any way shape or form represent the split in public opinion.

The only people who desperately want this to go through are either thick, easily led, or have something to gain from it. Or a combination of all three.

Especially as the 177 supporting letters/emails to PCC were outweighed by 211 objections despite twitter campaigns and email pleas from the club.

177 out of 3-4,000 PAFC members. Silent majority, my arse!!

i think the phrase is stupid minority

Lads we can't do anything but sit back & watch as our club disappears up into JBs asshole and tell them "we told you so" once we're in the Jewson South Western league.

Still, our fans will have shiny new hats to play with I guess

green_genie wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

LondonGreen wrote:

'The majority in our readers' poll agrees'

This being an unfiltered poll where anyone can vote hundreds of times? The Editor of this paper deserves a kicking for putting this statement on the front page

If ever there were proof needed that the Herald are slotted neatly into Brents top pocket then this is it. Pretty desperate that they've had to use the 'majority' line to try and force this through. It's an amateur local rag anyway and has been going downhill for years, but this will alienate many many more people with misleading tag lines and a headline that doesn't in any way shape or form represent the split in public opinion.

The only people who desperately want this to go through are either thick, easily led, or have something to gain from it. Or a combination of all three.

Especially as the 177 supporting letters/emails to PCC were outweighed by 211 objections despite twitter campaigns and email pleas from the club.

177 out of 3-4,000 PAFC members. Silent majority, my arse!!

And using Newell's logic how many of those supporting letters and emails were from people living in Plymouth? 

and how any of the 7k faithful are from plymouth?

Mapperley, darling wrote:

and how any of the 7k faithful are from plymouth?

 Quite so......which means even less have a say in anything to do with Argyle according to Porky
#fattyisabellend

Pokesdown wrote:

and the Roger Cook award for investigative journalism goes to.....anyone but the Herald...

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I feel ill looking at that.

disgusting.

city business leaders agree ? what about the increase in EMPTY city centre shops...........

dimwits.

Elias wrote:

disgusting.

city business leaders agree ? what about the increase in EMPTY city centre shops...........

dimwits.

 Im sure that the city centre restaurant owners, the city hotels, the managing director of the Vue cinema complex to name a few would beg to differ.

It looks crap as well, when it weathers in and is viewed on a damp foggy day in November it will be the epitome of drabness, more of a tradesmans entrance than grand entrance, it underwhelms on all levels and most of all it is not good for Plymouth.

Someone's turned the mic off for Amanda (Sutherland Objector on behalf of Community Forum), where's IJN?

shonbo wrote:

Someone's turned the mic off for Amanda (Sutherland Objector on behalf of Community Forum), where's IJN?

Ah, she's back and LOUD

shonbo wrote:

shonbo wrote:

Someone's turned the mic off for Amanda (Sutherland Objector on behalf of Community Forum), where's IJN?

Ah, she's back and LOUD

and she's good, all 106 negotiations, no firm plans, are you really going to approve a scheme that doesn't tell you what they are going to do with the waste. and more but I can't type and listen. bleddy good, asking for a deferral until all the info. Brent comes on to a round of applause.

shonbo wrote:

shonbo wrote:

shonbo wrote:

Someone's turned the mic off for Amanda (Sutherland Objector on behalf of Community Forum), where's IJN?

Ah, she's back and LOUD

and she's good, all 106 negotiations, no firm plans, are you really going to approve a scheme that doesn't tell you what they are going to do with the waste. and more but I can't type and listen. bleddy good, asking for a deferral until all the info. Brent comes on to a round of applause.

JB, planning app is all about PAFC.
MAterially improves match day experience for fans - Ladies loos!!
Additional income on sustainable basis
HHP is not however just about Argyle.
Sporting centre of SW
Ice hockey team chance to play competitive match.
1000 jobs created.
Will improve facilities in HP, new trees, despite what Amanda was saying.

will enhance pride and enthusiasm of city.
Will enable regeneration of Pavs and WE. 2500 jobs.

60% size of Sainsbury at marsh mills.
benefiting the many, not just the few.

Applause and a couple of cheers

Sorry for the bits I missed.

Members- Car parking concerns - 380 spaces - overspill parking of 22 cars on sat at 8pm

Trees - 18 Hornbeams might have to be removed - (back to 106 negotiation)

any new trees replacing the mature hornbeams will not be like for like.

Waste - missed that

Retail impact - minimal impact on city centre (1% of total CC spend, 6% of Sport & Leisure spend on CC)

negotiated 106 being varied on appeal by developer - can be done - but is a legal agreement

Those hornbeam trees that are to be chopped down have been valued at £250,000

Amanda Sutherland states that nowhere amongst the plans does it show that new trees will be provided but then Brent bulldozes on and says that trees will be planted, without giving any details.

Cllr Nicholson and an earlier cllr have made big noises about how the hornbeam trees shield nearby residents from having to see the car park and that they reduce noise from Home Park.

Again reservations about the access road and Cllr Nicholson isn't willing to support the plans as they are without many conditions or assurances  

I get the impression that this isn't going to go ahead without significant changes.

Not able to recommend at this moment- Cllr Nicholson, Planning Committee

Highway impact on Outland Rd - not convinced alternative transport solns considered to this.
Needs More Detail - as city , we have not challenged enough

Loss of Hornbeam Trees

Landscaping proposals - not convince of binding detail - need cast iron guarantees

Assurances need to be demonstrated about democratic accountability. - needs further consultation in this and 106.

How can you say sign off 106 by 23rd Aug, How can this be right, pressure coming from the developer, no detail, how can we approve something with no substance, why 23rd so imprtant. A little applause. Rebuke against applauders. No rebuke for Brent supportes

Highways - this is 9th iteration.

Chair - Members of public making comments can leave.

Can't hear this guy.

Timing - planning app deadline 13 weeks after put in.

Chair - how much detail should be expected at this stage
- response - not unusual for bits to still be considered.
Cllr makes good point wrt public involvement - the chair stays involved in 106 negotiations. Level of detail is standard at this stage, in keeping with other projects of this stage.

Chair - incinerator what happened 2 years ago.
Left to legal and planning officers.

Thanks for the text commentary shonbo, much appreciated, keep it coming.

sorry have to go to work

A vida, thanks again.