Sheridan Gets To Work

No one will "buy" Chadders. We've seen it all before. And you have to question this continuing contract negotiation within the club that has time and time again allowed ludicrous renewal options for old geezers. I seem to remember the first revelation was that hopeless character full back.... Colchester guy ?
I seriously believe that not one person cared about the viability of a future functioning football team in our park. And I include all the senior players in that, looking for the biggest bunce they could extract, and one might sy who could blame them given the goons running the show looking after their own interests.
While the club is perceived in the REAL world outside Pasoti spin as a plaything and investment door opener for a rich man, I see no reason for that attitude to change. You either have a club bond, or you don't.

Freathy wrote:

Dougie wrote:

RELEASED
Warren Feeney

TRANSFER-LISTED
Nick Chadwick

Who the f*** is going to want chadwick though?

Caerphilly Ladies Team?

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Sheridan signing his new contract could be delayed by all the clubs enquiring about Chadwick.

And did I read correctly that Feeney has been given the whole summer to score a goal and if he can then he might get a new contract? Can't see that happening myself.

worried of penzance wrote:

No one will "buy" Chadders. We've seen it all before. And you have to question this continuing contract negotiation within the club that has time and time again allowed ludicrous renewal options for old geezers. I seem to remember the first revelation was that hopeless character full back.... Colchester guy ?
I seriously believe that not one person cared about the viability of a future functioning football team in our park. And I include all the senior players in that, looking for the biggest bunce they could extract, and one might sy who could blame them given the goons running the show looking after their own interests.
While the club is perceived in the REAL world outside Pasoti spin as a plaything and investment door opener for a rich man, I see no reason for that attitude to change. You either have a club bond, or you don't.

Karl Duguid, worried?

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

worried of penzance wrote:

No one will "buy" Chadders. We've seen it all before. And you have to question this continuing contract negotiation within the club that has time and time again allowed ludicrous renewal options for old geezers. I seem to remember the first revelation was that hopeless character full back.... Colchester guy ?
I seriously believe that not one person cared about the viability of a future functioning football team in our park. And I include all the senior players in that, looking for the biggest bunce they could extract, and one might sy who could blame them given the goons running the show looking after their own interests.
While the club is perceived in the REAL world outside Pasoti spin as a plaything and investment door opener for a rich man, I see no reason for that attitude to change. You either have a club bond, or you don't.

Karl Duguid, worried?

he was shit

He was better than chadwick and he was our top scorer for a few weeks in one season. Thats something chadders could never boast about!

May stockport will take chadders back as one for the future- a couple more relegations and chadders will be at his level

Wotton is versatile, experienced and committed, that's why he is getting another deal.

He's pretty much our best defensive mid and one of our best CBs, so I dont get the expectations to get rid.

Great start from Sheridan off loading the shite and obvious intent that he is doing his business early. He may actually buck the trend next season and bring some much needed positivity to the place.

ejh wrote:

Wotton is versatile, experienced and committed, that's why he is getting another deal.

He's pretty much our best defensive mid and one of our best CBs, so I dont get the expectations to get rid.

Wotton was never quick, but with age he becomes even more pedestrian. I doubt he'll last many 90's, but probably a useful squad player to have around for the dressing room gee up etc.

Has he been offered, and signed, a new contract then?

mcfry wrote:

Has he been offered, and signed, a new contract then?

Yes... No... Err...

In typical Argyle fashion --

He will be signing, but hasn't actually done so...

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Angry of Mayfair wrote:

I'd just pay him up and feck hiim off tbh. I really dont see another club buying him for a fee. On a free maybe but never a fee.

I expect he will be paid off before the new season starts and his transfer listing is just procedure informing him to feck off.

Chadwick is obviously still under contract or had an option to extend his current deal which he has invoked. Somebody at Argyle is obviously taking the Mickey expecting a transfer fee.Although they tend to do that at Argyle.To me its still very much the team that finished last season which doesn't fill me with any hope at all for next season even though it is 96 days away.

Transfer listing Chadwick is a laugh. Who is going to give us dosh for him?

Where do people get this idea that transfer-listing Chadwick means we are expecting to get a fee for him? All transfer-listing a player means is that while he may still be under contract, we don't want him any more, and are circulating his name to other clubs.

If anyone is stupid enough to come in for him, it'll most certainly be a free transfer.

Wotton has been described, and probably rightly so, pedestrian, for most of his career...and it's long been fashionable to slag off anyone with no pace, rightly even bankers and ice cream sellers. What happened to the praising of laconic skill, seeing a pass, facilitating other people's play .. a player that talks ?

Let's face it, Evans was a bit of a snail, and yet he was THE best local centre forward to come out of Plymouth since Bickle. He hardly ever scored, one couldn't say he had the skill of Messi, but he was some player.
Wotton dserves another season,given his not inconsiderable influence in front of the back four these last two seasons. His replacing the leg-shot Fletcher in front of our defence was THE reason we scraped the odd extra point that kept us up. He must have another season in him.

Sheridan has released five players none of whom regularly featured in the first team so basically he has retained the same underperforming squad that has just finished 89th in the whole football league.Carl Fletcher was lambasted for not clearing the decks and starting afresh,yet Sheridan is doing exactly the same.There are fifteen players being retained or offered new contracts.Same old same old.

I never understood why we needed 3 keepers last season. Especially when Gilmartin Cleary shite and Chenoweth unlikely to be much good

greensleeves wrote:

Sheridan has released five players none of whom regularly featured in the first team so basically he has retained the same underperforming squad that has just finished 89th in the whole football league.Carl Fletcher was lambasted for not clearing the decks and starting afresh,yet Sheridan is doing exactly the same.There are fifteen players being retained or offered new contracts.Same old same old.

Plus the 2 transfer listed (who'll probably get paid off) and those who got released/offloaded in January. Plenty of room to manouvre and bring in new signings. No complaints from me.

Under Fletcher the squad as a whole underperformed. With Sheridan it was different. The form of the squad was that of a challenging playoff side rather than relegation fodder and they were in that position because of Fletcher's decisions. Most of the players retained or offered new deals performed well latterly. There is the makings of a decent side in there and with additions to that there is no reason to think it could not be a very good side. I personally agree with the casting off and retaining list pretty much. Wotton did enough to be given another season for me as well. You need players like him in a dressing room.

The Larrieu question should not be one of owing him and loyalty but whether he can do the job of a No.2 in management. I don't think he can and therefore if he is cast out then it is a decent footballing shout where sentiment never got you anywhere. Give him another role at the club by all means but not in management.

I noticed on the Beeb site that Moshni, the Southend player that caused a long discussion for the "where's your caravan" chants when he played here, has had his contract cancelled by mutual agreement with Southend. I thought he was a decent player when he played against us and gave us quite a hard time all match whilst playing up to the Devonport chants with good humour. Has some disciplinary problems within Southend which is probably why they have agreed to part company. Anyone fancy him here?

Hugh Watt wrote:

I never understood why we needed 3 keepers last season. Especially when Gilmartin Cleary shite and Chenoweth unlikely to be much good

If we had a reserve team i would understand it but it was another gem from Fletcher. Giving a new contract to Ollie then went out and bought Rene straight afterwards whilst having Jake Cole. What a waste of money that was.

Coxside_Green wrote:

greensleeves wrote:

Sheridan has released five players none of whom regularly featured in the first team so basically he has retained the same underperforming squad that has just finished 89th in the whole football league.Carl Fletcher was lambasted for not clearing the decks and starting afresh,yet Sheridan is doing exactly the same.There are fifteen players being retained or offered new contracts.Same old same old.

Plus the 2 transfer listed (who'll probably get paid off) and those who got released/offloaded in January. Plenty of room to manouvre and bring in new signings. No complaints from me.

If the one's offered new contracts all sign that leaves us with 15.

The additional 7 or 8 that arrive will have to be first team players for me. Gurrieri seems to divide opinion so he could've gone along with Wotton and maybe Richards?

We need a couple of decent strikers and midfielders for sure, as well as a keeper, and there's our squad.

Defensively we've been pretty sound so I'm not too surprised they've all been retained.

Vassell is probably the biggest surprise and I really hope that it doesn't mean him and Tyler Harvey are our strike force, oh and Lecointe, as they have about 3 senior goals between them! If Feeney impresses, stop sniggering, I don't see more than one more striker arriving and that's a worry.

Early days though.

Of the 15 retained if they all resign that is, probably only 7 to 8 would be considered starters. The players brought in have to be the 4 or 5 that will make the difference and progress us from a mid table standard squad to a challenging squad. Fletcher's mistake(well one of them) was signing more bodies no better than what we had. I would also expect the likes of Richards, Lecointe, Harvey and Berry for example to further progress and stake a claim for a starting place. PCH's retention surprised me but apart from that happy with the retained list.

Greenjock wrote:

Coxside_Green wrote:

greensleeves wrote:

Sheridan has released five players none of whom regularly featured in the first team so basically he has retained the same underperforming squad that has just finished 89th in the whole football league.Carl Fletcher was lambasted for not clearing the decks and starting afresh,yet Sheridan is doing exactly the same.There are fifteen players being retained or offered new contracts.Same old same old.

Plus the 2 transfer listed (who'll probably get paid off) and those who got released/offloaded in January. Plenty of room to manouvre and bring in new signings. No complaints from me.

If the one's offered new contracts all sign that leaves us with 15.

The additional 7 or 8 that arrive will have to be first team players for me. Gurrieri seems to divide opinion so he could've gone along with Wotton and maybe Richards?

We need a couple of decent strikers and midfielders for sure, as well as a keeper, and there's our squad.

Defensively we've been pretty sound so I'm not too surprised they've all been retained.

Vassell is probably the biggest surprise and I really hope that it doesn't mean him and Tyler Harvey are our strike force, oh and Lecointe, as they have about 3 senior goals between them! If Feeney impresses, stop sniggering, I don't see more than one more striker arriving and that's a worry.

Early days though.

I agree any new signings should be first team players and mostly forwards & midfielders.

I think Richards, along with Lecoint and perhaps one or 2 others who are still contracted (and maybe even Vassell) will probably have until January to start proving themselves (assuming their contracts don't go beyond the end of next season). Wotton's still proving to be a useful utility player and maybe offers more behind the scenes? Can't see Feeney impressing TBH but would be harsh for Sheridan not to give him a chance, expect him out the door all the same.