Peter Jones - Feb 9th 2011

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I have supported this club since I was seven.

I really do not want to see it disappear because of the staleness and continuing cynicism of the current regime. It's too big a part of too many people's lives, including my own, and essential for the future of the city.

My position? I have absolutely no desire to try and engineer a repeat of what happened in the summer of 2001.

But if I could find some good people prepared to give Argyle not just a lifeline, but also a fresh start - as long as it was as a community-focused football club rather than as a development opportunity - I'd be perfectly happy to help the process along, as an enabler.

I'm sure there's someone out there who can breathe new life, energy and ability into the club.

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Quite a few "guests" on that thread, funnily enough.

Q: What are your thoughts on the recent news that the current Argyle board are buying the freehold of the ground from the local council for £2.7m?

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PJ: I'd prefer to comment on this in the context of my view of the Council. They did this deal for one reason only: to get out of their stated commitment to support, in tangible terms, the redevelopment of Home Park. That's disappointing - the city desperately needs a successful club, playing in a decent stadium. The council should have invested in Home Park, as they promised to do, and as has happened in other major cities across the country and over Europe.

Why cant fans like Peter Jones feck off and support Man Utd?

GOB wrote:

Q: What are your thoughts on the recent news that the current Argyle board are buying the freehold of the ground from the local council for £2.7m?

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PJ: I'd prefer to comment on this in the context of my view of the Council. They did this deal for one reason only: to get out of their stated commitment to support, in tangible terms, the redevelopment of Home Park. That's disappointing - the city desperately needs a successful club, playing in a decent stadium. The council should have invested in Home Park, as they promised to do, and as has happened in other major cities across the country and over Europe.

A bit of multiple choice for PJ,

After you joined the board of Plymouth Argyle for the second time, would you say that your principles are;

1) intact?
2) in tatters?
3) on a par with the owner of pasoti and the club President?

Total property developing wanker.

I know i will get shot down for this as usual but...

Yes the new stand is crap, but without the possibilty of development who in their right mind would touch a club like Argyle?

And by a club like Argyle, i mean broke with no real assets.

No very many people want to throw money down an empty pit these days and those with money to throw around buy clubs more central and with bigger fan bases.

The likes of Brent is all we can hope for now and in the future

Thats not me licking Brents butt, thats just me being realistic.

Some still believe there is a sugar daddy out there, but they are dreaming.

Its seems we may have survived by the skin of our teeths again this season, so next season will be the time for Brent to prove and show what he really wants to achieve with the club other than developement.

125+1 wrote:

Its seems we may have survived by the skin of our teeths again this season, so next season will be the time for Brent to prove and show what he really wants to achieve with the club other than developement.

We all said that 12 months ago.

Czarcasm wrote:

125+1 wrote:

Its seems we may have survived by the skin of our teeths again this season, so next season will be the time for Brent to prove and show what he really wants to achieve with the club other than developement.

We all said that 12 months ago.

The thing is i believe Brent has learnt an awfull lot in the last 12 months, like not everyone can manage a football club and, you do need a little quality on the pitch aswell as hope!.

125+1 wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

125+1 wrote:

Its seems we may have survived by the skin of our teeths again this season, so next season will be the time for Brent to prove and show what he really wants to achieve with the club other than developement.

We all said that 12 months ago.

The thing is i believe Brent has learnt an awfull lot in the last 12 months, like not everyone can manage a football club and, you do need a little quality on the pitch aswell as hope!.

Most clubs that purport to be properly run employ a chief executive.

125+1 wrote:

I know i will get shot down for this as usual but...

Yes the new stand is crap, but without the possibilty of development who in their right mind would touch a club like Argyle?

And by a club like Argyle, i mean broke with no real assets.

No very many people want to throw money down an empty pit these days and those with money to throw around buy clubs more central and with bigger fan bases.

The likes of Brent is all we can hope for now and in the future

Thats not me licking Brents butt, thats just me being realistic.

Some still believe there is a sugar daddy out there, but they are dreaming.

Its seems we may have survived by the skin of our teeths again this season, so next season will be the time for Brent to prove and show what he really wants to achieve with the club other than developement.

You may be right in your opening statements (though some have argued that it was stage-managed from the beginning). But as for the logical extension of that ..... nobody would buy a club when Mr Brent steps down (as he said he will) if there is little or no possibility for expansion. That is one of the things wrong with Akkeron's proposals.

I believe Mr Brent has already said there would be no more money given to the club next season - and I also understand that he hasn't "given" any money so far anyway. It has all been in the form of interest-free loans. I may be wrong.

125+1 wrote:

I know i will get shot down for this as usual but...

Yes the new stand is crap, but without the possibilty of development who in their right mind would touch a club like Argyle?

And by a club like Argyle, i mean broke with no real assets.

No very many people want to throw money down an empty pit these days and those with money to throw around buy clubs more central and with bigger fan bases.

The likes of Brent is all we can hope for now and in the future

Thats not me licking Brents butt, thats just me being realistic.

Some still believe there is a sugar daddy out there, but they are dreaming.

Its seems we may have survived by the skin of our teeths again this season, so next season will be the time for Brent to prove and show what he really wants to achieve with the club other than developement.

Come on, wakey wakey! James Brent is involved with Argyle because of a £150m property development opportunity. What he needs to give to Argyle is what he and others have promised we would have, a shiny new stadium and non match day income from retail space within it. In return he gets the development project and gets richer, without Argyle it would never have happened, we are the key to the chest with the loot in.

How can you have a bigger fan base in a more central area when there is far more competition, whereas there are no league clubs in Cornwall and only Torquay and Exeter in Devon that have always been smaller in terms of fan base?
There is also no need for the type of development that is planned when if the main stand was planned and built properly it would help to finance the club (I thought that was the aim of Brent to have a self-sustaining club). I mean out of a choice of renting a hotel room overlooking a football stadium and outland road or the Hoe, I know which one I would go for.
Also the fact that Brent has been given the Pavilions and the prospect of a multi-million pound development of Millbay to the city centre I would of thought that was more than enough.
When you look at other clubs that have built new stadiums you don't see hotels being built along side them so why should we?

Self sustaining = no money from owner.

GOB wrote:

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I have supported this club since I was seven.

I really do not want to see it disappear because of the staleness and continuing cynicism of the current regime. It's too big a part of too many people's lives, including my own, and essential for the future of the city.

My position? I have absolutely no desire to try and engineer a repeat of what happened in the summer of 2001.

But if I could find some good people prepared to give Argyle not just a lifeline, but also a fresh start - as long as it was as a community-focused football club rather than as a development opportunity - I'd be perfectly happy to help the process along, as an enabler.

I'm sure there's someone out there who can breathe new life, energy and ability into the club.

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GOB wrote:

Q: What are your thoughts on the recent news that the current Argyle board are buying the freehold of the ground from the local council for £2.7m?

Quote :

PJ: I'd prefer to comment on this in the context of my view of the Council. They did this deal for one reason only: to get out of their stated commitment to support, in tangible terms, the redevelopment of Home Park. That's disappointing - the city desperately needs a successful club, playing in a decent stadium. The council should have invested in Home Park, as they promised to do, and as has happened in other major cities across the country and over Europe.

Another question then. Who out of Chris Webb, Ian Newell, Postey, Cerbera and Peter Jones has shown the most blatant case of doing an about turn and forgetting their principles since James Brent appeared on the scene?

If it were multiple choice there would be an option of all of the above

125+1 wrote:

I know i will get shot down for this as usual but...

Yes the new stand is crap, but without the possibilty of development who in their right mind would touch a club like Argyle?

And by a club like Argyle, i mean broke with no real assets.

No very many people want to throw money down an empty pit these days and those with money to throw around buy clubs more central and with bigger fan bases.

The likes of Brent is all we can hope for now and in the future

Thats not me licking Brents butt, thats just me being realistic.

Some still believe there is a sugar daddy out there, but they are dreaming.

Its seems we may have survived by the skin of our teeths again this season, so next season will be the time for Brent to prove and show what he really wants to achieve with the club other than developement.

Very good points 125+1 but the one highlighted is because Brent has taken them away from the club for his own pocket.

Peter Jones - 13th April 2011

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Jones said: "I like very much what he has been saying about the importance of the fans in all this, and rededicating the football club to the supporters and to the city.

"I like the fact he's talking about getting some kind of formal relationship with the Argyle Fans' Trust.

"And I like the fact he's the sort of man who believes very seriously in proper corporate governance.

"He's talking about being a non-executive director. He's not interested in the vanity of being a chairman.

"He has absolutely no interest, and that, I think, is a very good thing.

"He also says he's going to get three or four specialist non-execs. I think that corporate governance is spot on."

So would Jones be interested in any such role with Argyle under Brent's ownership?

"I think we need to wait and see what happens," he replied.

This is Devon link

May 11th 2011

Peter Jones:

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Jones added: "There also seems to be a mismatch between what the supporters of the club want, which is a successful football team, and what the owners want, which is an enormous and inappropriate property development based around Home Park."

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Stop moaning or go and support Man Utd! F***ing puporters!

Stapes or Jones?

How they can bear to show their faces in public after the massive lies that have been told to the fanbase is beyond me, what's worse is that some enabling fans are still trying to tell us all that the lies are the real truth.

125+1 wrote:

I know i will get shot down for this as usual but...

Yes the new stand is crap, but without the possibilty of development who in their right mind would touch a club like Argyle?

And by a club like Argyle, i mean broke with no real assets.

No very many people want to throw money down an empty pit these days and those with money to throw around buy clubs more central and with bigger fan bases.

The likes of Brent is all we can hope for now and in the future

Thats not me licking Brents butt, thats just me being realistic.

Some still believe there is a sugar daddy out there, but they are dreaming.

Its seems we may have survived by the skin of our teeths again this season, so next season will be the time for Brent to prove and show what he really wants to achieve with the club other than developement.  

"And by a club like Argyle, i mean broke with no real assets."

Believe me any investor with money with that sort of situation - "Broke with no assets" equals Cheap and big profits.

It costs a lot less to purchase a company with no assets (to bump up the market value) will buy cheap and sell at huge profit. And the best way to generate a huge profit - Build a new state of the art stadium elsewhere. or god forbid - franchise?