Warnock Sacked

I'm never convinced by football people who seem to fink slowly and have difficulty stringing a few sentences togever.

JS was allowed to bring in new blood and the results have improved but I'm far from convinced of his ability to be a long term success and the man to lead the club back up the leagues.

Angry of Manchester wrote:

Iggy wrote:

Feck all this "role at Argyle" crap, all you would want to hire a manager for is to manage, if JS is doing a good job, keep him, if not sack him and get Warnock in. I can't see Warnock coming here without a decent budget and with the debts Brent has saddled us with that aint happening. Anyway, I hate all this DOF bollocks, manager, captain of the team, jumpers for goal posts, 4 4 2, RRRRROOOOAAAARRRRR!!!!!!

this (as it seems to be the popular way of saying i agree now)

Argyle fans love living in the past Ian Newell is living proof of that but seriously we got a good manager in Sheridan who admittedly hardly anyone was thrilled with when he took over but he has done a fantastic job and almost secured objective 1 in keeping us up. If Sheridan wants to stay on a longer contract and build on this season and take the club forward then Brent should be moving mountains to keep him before some other team snoops in while Brent stalls and i wouldnt blame Sheridan if he took another job.

We dont need to have Neil Warnock, Paul Sturrock or any ex manager at the club working JS from behind when John isnt a rookie manager he has tasted success and has a good track record. If Carl was still in charge than absolutely we would need Warnock on board as a DofF but atm no we dont.
ambassador for the club yes, President of the club (seeing as the current one has gone quiet) yes but no to anything else.

The only way we should bring Warnock,Sturrock back to the club is if JOHN SHERIDAN wants the help not because Ian wants him back.

I agree

Tringreen wrote:

I'm never convinced by football people who seem to fink slowly and have difficulty stringing a few sentences togever.

JS was allowed to bring in new blood and the results have improved but I'm far from convinced of his ability to be a long term success and the man to lead the club back up the leagues.

Tring,i fink you may well be underestimating Sheridan .He actually won this division with Chesterfield a couple of seasons ago,so he does have some pedigree at this level,i believe his results were pretty good when he was manager at Oldham in the division above as well.Argyle have been visibly better organised since Sheridan took over and the goals conceded [11 in 15 games] speaks for itself -he may not come across as a professor of linguistics but his message must be getting through to the players,which is the most important thing.Strikes me that he isn't the type to brook any nonsense from anybody and has the name and personality to stamp his authority on the club,which was sadly missing during the Fletch days,and has always been a prerequisite for any successful Argyle manager.I really believe that,given the right backing [without which Ferguson and Mourinho would be helpless], then the guy could take us up a couple of divisions in a hurry,a la Sturrock,who it has to be said wasn't exactly the most charismatic of public figures.Awful long way to go and a lot of work to be done in the summer but i would be very pleased to see Sheridan given a 2 year contract and the opportunity to take us back at least to where we should be-i think he's the man for the job.

Greenskin wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

I'm never convinced by football people who seem to fink slowly and have difficulty stringing a few sentences togever.

JS was allowed to bring in new blood and the results have improved but I'm far from convinced of his ability to be a long term success and the man to lead the club back up the leagues.

Tring,i fink you may well be underestimating Sheridan .He actually won this division with Chesterfield a couple of seasons ago,so he does have some pedigree at this level,i believe his results were pretty good when he was manager at Oldham in the division above as well.Argyle have been visibly better organised since Sheridan took over and the goals conceded [11 in 15 games] speaks for itself -he may not come across as a professor of linguistics but his message must be getting through to the players,which is the most important thing.Strikes me that he isn't the type to brook any nonsense from anybody and has the name and personality to stamp his authority on the club,which was sadly missing during the Fletch days,and has always been a prerequisite for any successful Argyle manager.I really believe that,given the right backing [without which Ferguson and Mourinho would be helpless], then the guy could take us up a couple of divisions in a hurry,a la Sturrock,who it has to be said wasn't exactly the most charismatic of public figures.Awful long way to go and a lot of work to be done in the summer but i would be very pleased to see Sheridan given a 2 year contract and the opportunity to take us back at least to where we should be-i think he's the man for the job.

Coming from you, that's good enough for me. I'm a bit of a snob sometimes

Tringreen wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

I'm never convinced by football people who seem to fink slowly and have difficulty stringing a few sentences togever.

JS was allowed to bring in new blood and the results have improved but I'm far from convinced of his ability to be a long term success and the man to lead the club back up the leagues.

Tring,i fink you may well be underestimating Sheridan .He actually won this division with Chesterfield a couple of seasons ago,so he does have some pedigree at this level,i believe his results were pretty good when he was manager at Oldham in the division above as well.Argyle have been visibly better organised since Sheridan took over and the goals conceded [11 in 15 games] speaks for itself -he may not come across as a professor of linguistics but his message must be getting through to the players,which is the most important thing.Strikes me that he isn't the type to brook any nonsense from anybody and has the name and personality to stamp his authority on the club,which was sadly missing during the Fletch days,and has always been a prerequisite for any successful Argyle manager.I really believe that,given the right backing [without which Ferguson and Mourinho would be helpless], then the guy could take us up a couple of divisions in a hurry,a la Sturrock,who it has to be said wasn't exactly the most charismatic of public figures.Awful long way to go and a lot of work to be done in the summer but i would be very pleased to see Sheridan given a 2 year contract and the opportunity to take us back at least to where we should be-i think he's the man for the job.

Coming from you, that's good enough for me. I'm a bit of a snob sometimes

So am i,in all truth.Don't even like being in the same car as my chauffeur.

Greenskin wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

I'm never convinced by football people who seem to fink slowly and have difficulty stringing a few sentences togever.

JS was allowed to bring in new blood and the results have improved but I'm far from convinced of his ability to be a long term success and the man to lead the club back up the leagues.

Tring,i fink you may well be underestimating Sheridan .He actually won this division with Chesterfield a couple of seasons ago,so he does have some pedigree at this level,i believe his results were pretty good when he was manager at Oldham in the division above as well.Argyle have been visibly better organised since Sheridan took over and the goals conceded [11 in 15 games] speaks for itself -he may not come across as a professor of linguistics but his message must be getting through to the players,which is the most important thing.Strikes me that he isn't the type to brook any nonsense from anybody and has the name and personality to stamp his authority on the club,which was sadly missing during the Fletch days,and has always been a prerequisite for any successful Argyle manager.I really believe that,given the right backing [without which Ferguson and Mourinho would be helpless], then the guy could take us up a couple of divisions in a hurry,a la Sturrock,who it has to be said wasn't exactly the most charismatic of public figures.Awful long way to go and a lot of work to be done in the summer but i would be very pleased to see Sheridan given a 2 year contract and the opportunity to take us back at least to where we should be-i think he's the man for the job.

Someone reported Brent as saying that he won't be loaning the club any money next season so the budget will be set much, much lower than the "competetive budget" Fletcher had the luxury of this season. Expect a squad roughly the same as the one Peter Reid had to work with 2 years ago then.

Greenskin wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

I'm never convinced by football people who seem to fink slowly and have difficulty stringing a few sentences togever.

JS was allowed to bring in new blood and the results have improved but I'm far from convinced of his ability to be a long term success and the man to lead the club back up the leagues.

Tring,i fink you may well be underestimating Sheridan .He actually won this division with Chesterfield a couple of seasons ago,so he does have some pedigree at this level,i believe his results were pretty good when he was manager at Oldham in the division above as well.Argyle have been visibly better organised since Sheridan took over and the goals conceded [11 in 15 games] speaks for itself -he may not come across as a professor of linguistics but his message must be getting through to the players,which is the most important thing.Strikes me that he isn't the type to brook any nonsense from anybody and has the name and personality to stamp his authority on the club,which was sadly missing during the Fletch days,and has always been a prerequisite for any successful Argyle manager.I really believe that,given the right backing [without which Ferguson and Mourinho would be helpless], then the guy could take us up a couple of divisions in a hurry,a la Sturrock,who it has to be said wasn't exactly the most charismatic of public figures.Awful long way to go and a lot of work to be done in the summer but i would be very pleased to see Sheridan given a 2 year contract and the opportunity to take us back at least to where we should be-i think he's the man for the job.

I agree with a lot of that. Even during interviews he comes across as the boss and not a mate of the players, which was Fletch's downfall (and his complete lack of ability as a manager). He's built the side around a better defence which has seen our improvement in form. Earlier in the season the same poor mistakes were made and our defending of set pieces was atrocious. Branston has helped a lot as we needed a dominant defender, and although he doesn't win everything he gives his all and helps the younger players.

Chemical Ali wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

I'm never convinced by football people who seem to fink slowly and have difficulty stringing a few sentences togever.

JS was allowed to bring in new blood and the results have improved but I'm far from convinced of his ability to be a long term success and the man to lead the club back up the leagues.

Tring,i fink you may well be underestimating Sheridan .He actually won this division with Chesterfield a couple of seasons ago,so he does have some pedigree at this level,i believe his results were pretty good when he was manager at Oldham in the division above as well.Argyle have been visibly better organised since Sheridan took over and the goals conceded [11 in 15 games] speaks for itself -he may not come across as a professor of linguistics but his message must be getting through to the players,which is the most important thing.Strikes me that he isn't the type to brook any nonsense from anybody and has the name and personality to stamp his authority on the club,which was sadly missing during the Fletch days,and has always been a prerequisite for any successful Argyle manager.I really believe that,given the right backing [without which Ferguson and Mourinho would be helpless], then the guy could take us up a couple of divisions in a hurry,a la Sturrock,who it has to be said wasn't exactly the most charismatic of public figures.Awful long way to go and a lot of work to be done in the summer but i would be very pleased to see Sheridan given a 2 year contract and the opportunity to take us back at least to where we should be-i think he's the man for the job.

I agree with a lot of that. Even during interviews he comes across as the boss and not a mate of the players, which was Fletch's downfall (and his complete lack of ability as a manager). He's built the side around a better defence which has seen our improvement in form. Earlier in the season the same poor mistakes were made and our defending of set pieces was atrocious. Branston has helped a lot as we needed a dominant defender, and although he doesn't win everything he gives his all and helps the younger players.

Funnily enough,a few Chesterfield fans came on various forums after Sheridan was appointed and said that his playing style was the polar opposite of what it's turned out to be-up there apparently the football was excellent,the organisation not the best.Maybe Sheridan can cut his cloth according to the circumstances,maybe he's changed his style and become meaner,not sure - if he could find a balance between the two,then something very good could be the result.

Talking of managers engineering spectacular recoveries,a truly remarkable turnaround at Bristol Rovers under John Ward.Looking at the table earlier,they are now only 5 points off the play offs [catching Exeter up fast]-i think they were below Argyle when he took over.Ward,Sheridan,Hill,O'Driscoll,any of them would have been a good choice for Argyle,opportunities wasted IMHO.

I know he has 'history' with some Argyle fans but have always thought Boothroyd is no fool either and could achieve with a club like Argyle, what he managed at Watford............................. but I might be wrong.
He's certainly doing reasonably well with the Cobblers.

JS is doing a good job Tring whats your gripe with him? is it because he doesnt sound like an eton boy?

Angry of Manchester wrote:

JS is doing a good job Tring whats your gripe with him? is it because he doesnt sound like an eton boy?

I've already admitted I might be wrong about him and I'm only going by how he presents in interviews ,compared to other previously mentioned managers .Similarly, to read too much into what he has achieved at Argyle, given that he was allowed several loan signings and he had no act to follow at the basement of the entire football league, is also jumping the gun imo.
Anyway , we're not safe yet and if we do survive, he might not like Brent's plans and financing for next season.