ATD terms and conditions for a peace treaty

But implications are different for different individuals, depending on their perception of differing scenarios.

I think.

Tringreen wrote:

Mike Searle wrote:

When there's blatent deceit, bullying and hypocrisy at work by a bunch of cowards, anywhere, it's difficult to not want to see some form of justice before closure.

Exactly......... they won't change, no matter what Pedlar says.

It shows the nature of the beast that they seem to believe that they have a god given right to control Pasoti and use it for their own self promotion.

See - this. Pasoti isn't a public service. You have no right to post on it. Applying LAW and rights to an internet site is a failed argument.

I see the justice in this case as being the public exposure of the lies, bullying and hypocrisy and the humiliation of the unapologetic liars, bullies and hypocrits that goes some way to preventing repetition.

Mike Searle wrote:

I see the justice in this case as being the public exposure of the lies, bullying and hypocrisy and the humiliation of the liars, bullies and hypocrits that goes some way to preventing repetition.

Exactly. Settle down hairybloke, you're sounding like your 'father'.

Tringreen wrote:

Mike Searle wrote:

I see the justice in this case as being the public exposure of the lies, bullying and hypocrisy and the humiliation of the liars, bullies and hypocrits that goes some way to preventing repetition.

Exactly. Settle down hairybloke, you're sounding like your 'father'.

And you sound like a Tring - fulfilling the prophetic point I made earlier. Unable to be 'wrong' and unable to discuss anything that questions what you post or accept being challenged. The superiority complex underlying what you post is exactly what you rally against. Answer that one Tring - I doubt you will as you don't have the capacity to do so.

hairy j wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Mike Searle wrote:

I see the justice in this case as being the public exposure of the lies, bullying and hypocrisy and the humiliation of the liars, bullies and hypocrits that goes some way to preventing repetition.

Exactly. Settle down hairybloke, you're sounding like your 'father'.

And you sound like a Tring - fulfilling the prophetic point I made earlier. Unable to be 'wrong' and unable to discuss anything that questions what you post or accept being challenged. The superiority complex underlying what you post is exactly what you rally against. Answer that one Tring - I doubt you will as you don't have the capacity to do so.

I'm certainly usually correct about people, even if I've never met them in person.

My 'superiority complex' as you put it, is my online persona on ATD, designed to provoke a response. It clearly works.

Mike Searle's position on this subject is shared by my good self, if that's alright with you ?

Internet 'persona' is the issue here.

For me, the internet is a real place and what you post is you - the internet is a human place and it's real - it isn't a fantasy land. I've posted this before but I grew up with the internet so it's as much a part of real life as having a cold or going on holiday or having a family - it's real. Maybe older posters see it differently and view it as a fantasy, escapist playground.

Your view is fine with me though.

The only way to have peace is for the attacks on ATD, it's members, exweb, it's members, AFT, it's members and officers. The suspicion is it is done by the usual suspects and their friends on pasoti. As a mod I have had to deal with attacks on here against members, their families and the site. I have also dealt with attacks against me and my family. I have had accounts opened using my personal email address for everything from information on new cars to porn sites and dating sites. This has caused me a lot of trouble at home when as a family we share a computer. My wife and daughter has found some of this stuff and has asked questions of me. I am sick to death of it all.
My email address is only used for certain things and these mailings would not come from them.
I used it to register on pasoti. I have blamed it on the admin over there but to be fair on them, I did see the other day that it is displayed on the members list which means anyone on pasoti could be responsible.

I just wish that those with issues would not involve others in their games and let the two sites get on with their own thing.

The attacks I have mentioned about here to do with ATD and it's members also extend to Ian Newell and his Daughter. As mods we have had to deal with some absolutely disgusting posts and usernames for them both, so for all his faults Ian and Amy ( I hope Ian doesn't mind me naming her) are also victims.

Also the attacks on pasoti, mods and it's members should stop as well.


This is my feelings on peace.
I will deal with the attacks on me my own way.

hairy j wrote:

Internet 'persona' is the issue here.

For me, the internet is a real place and what you post is you - the internet is a human place and it's real - it isn't a fantasy land. I've posted this before but I grew up with the internet so it's as much a part of real life as having a cold or going on holiday or having a family - it's real. Maybe older posters see it differently and view it as a fantasy, escapist playground.

Your view is fine with me though.

I'm super cool irl.

On here, though...I pretend to be uncool to fit in with the crowd.

That's the sinister side Mouldy and the individuals responsible are taking things too far. It's also quite childish.

I've had a few attempts to access my email account since I received a one month suspension from pasoti - I hope that's a coincidence. My email address is visible on here though so it could be Tring trying to access my account. Who knows... who knows.

You can't access the member list unless you are logged in I think.

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

The only way to have peace is for the attacks on ATD, it's members, exweb, it's members, AFT, it's members and officers. The suspicion is it is done by the usual suspects and their friends on pasoti. As a mod I have had to deal with attacks on here against members, their families and the site. I have also dealt with attacks against me and my family. I have had accounts opened using my personal email address for everything from information on new cars to porn sites and dating sites. This has caused me a lot of trouble at home when as a family we share a computer. My wife and daughter has found some of this stuff and has asked questions of me. I am sick to death of it all.
My email address is only used for certain things and these mailings would not come from them.
I used it to register on pasoti. I have blamed it on the admin over there but to be fair on them, I did see the other day that it is displayed on the members list which means anyone on pasoti could be responsible.

I just wish that those with issues would not involve others in their games and let the two sites get on with their own thing.

The attacks I have mentioned about here to do with ATD and it's members also extend to Ian Newell and his Daughter. As mods we have had to deal with some absolutely disgusting posts and usernames for them both, so for all his faults Ian and Amy ( I hope Ian doesn't mind me naming her) are also victims.

Also the attacks on pasoti, mods and it's members should stop as well.


This is my feelings on peace.
I will deal with the attacks on me my own way.

Agree 100% with Mouldy as I have had the exact same shit since I became a mod on here.

Everyone and anyone that has had anything to do with speaking against Newell has received the same shit, the bloke is very sick.

I really do believe that the only way to prevent Newell from screwing up Argyle, Exeter, Torquay web sites etc. is to seek some sort of legal action.

hairy j wrote:

It's a bit of an emotive word for me. It implies far more gravitas than what's happened between these 'certain people'. Justice for Hillsborough, justice for the Birmingham 6, Nelson Mandella being released, war criminals being tried in the Hague... someone lying on the internet?

Strapping someone to a chair and urinating on them?
Lie detectors?
European Courts of human Rights?
Thermo nuclear war?

They hung a monkey once in Hartlepool. Lest we forget.

So it's nothing to do with legality it's a personal definition?

hairy j wrote:

Internet 'persona' is the issue here.

For me, the internet is a real place and what you post is you - the internet is a human place and it's real - it isn't a fantasy land. I've posted this before but I grew up with the internet so it's as much a part of real life as having a cold or going on holiday or having a family - it's real. Maybe older posters see it differently and view it as a fantasy, escapist playground.

Your view is fine with me though.

Well thank you. I'm also well aware that the internet is 'real', hence the control and power that a few less than honest and fair Argyle fans have managed to exert over others, through their very own janner oligarchy, namely Pasoti.

hairy j wrote:

That's the sinister side Mouldy and the individuals responsible are taking things too far. It's also quite childish.

I've had a few attempts to access my email account since I received a one month suspension from pasoti - I hope that's a coincidence. My email address is visible on here though so it could be Tring trying to access my account. Who knows... who knows.

Wouldn't know 'how' dear boy and I can assure you it's not my style.

hairy j wrote:

I enjoy a piss take but when it gets way too personal, I'll back out. I don't 'hate' any one on either side of the 'war' but I fear 'hatred' is present in some. Most of it's frankly hilarious but there's some sinister internet personas involved. An acceptance of being wrong is important but some of these people cannot accept they're wrong. I'm certainly not righ all the time and when I am wrong, I'll admit it and back down.

A case in point is Jock - he seems to like a piss take and he's confrontational and uses the odd expletive - calling people cnuts seems ok to Jock. People on the other side though developed a 'let's get him' motive and that's caused him no end of grief. 99% of what Jock comes out with isn't malicious but some people don't like to be called cnuts.

This call for justice, I find strange - it isn't as if Chris Webb has actually done something illegal.

As I told Mike Newell, nobody likes finding out their dad's a cnut, but shit happens!

pepsipete wrote:

Newell removes his trousers and has his ass penetrated by a baboon.

Corrected for greater accuracy despite the pleasure that the Porkstain will get from the experience.

The natives are getting restless with the 'inner circle'

As we all know, they've been found out, yet still they cling on grimly like all crumbling dictatorships.

http://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=74509&start=15

Wonder what the Windsor Boys have to say about it all

Yea Man wrote:

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

The only way to have peace is for the attacks on ATD, it's members, exweb, it's members, AFT, it's members and officers. The suspicion is it is done by the usual suspects and their friends on pasoti. As a mod I have had to deal with attacks on here against members, their families and the site. I have also dealt with attacks against me and my family. I have had accounts opened using my personal email address for everything from information on new cars to porn sites and dating sites. This has caused me a lot of trouble at home when as a family we share a computer. My wife and daughter has found some of this stuff and has asked questions of me. I am sick to death of it all.
My email address is only used for certain things and these mailings would not come from them.
I used it to register on pasoti. I have blamed it on the admin over there but to be fair on them, I did see the other day that it is displayed on the members list which means anyone on pasoti could be responsible.

I just wish that those with issues would not involve others in their games and let the two sites get on with their own thing.

The attacks I have mentioned about here to do with ATD and it's members also extend to Ian Newell and his Daughter. As mods we have had to deal with some absolutely disgusting posts and usernames for them both, so for all his faults Ian and Amy ( I hope Ian doesn't mind me naming her) are also victims.

Also the attacks on pasoti, mods and it's members should stop as well.


This is my feelings on peace.
I will deal with the attacks on me my own way.

Agree 100% with Mouldy as I have had the exact same shit since I became a mod on here.

I too get lots of dodgy stuff popping up on my computer...not sure I can blame anybody else though

Tringreen wrote:

The natives are getting restless with the 'inner circle'

As we all know, they've been found out, yet still they cling on grimly like all crumbling dictatorships.

http://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=74509&start=15

Wonder what the Windsor Boys have to say about it all

I'm sure it'll be dealt with. A nasty pm, a implied threat, perhaps even a white feather, who knows?

Openess and transparency?

No class, integrity or honesty.