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Can anybody think of any genuine reason other than that Pasoti is totally in the club's pocket for this thread being moved? It looks like the cold, dead fingers of the controlling hand still grip everything tightly because it seems like a perfectly reasonable topic to discuss to me.

Just when you think things are getting to back to where they were all those years ago they go and spoil it!

Bet it was 2Faced.

Honesty and transparency my *ss.

If there are financial problems to be faced, why not come out and explain them. Then we might understand better why Chadwick plays while Madjo doesn't.

The current actions of the board are like feeling ill and refusing to go to the doctor or tell friends and family. It can only get worse.

I have to say that it is a rumour, a worrying one at that, so for once I can see why it's been moved.

feck me I need a lie down.

It's not really a rumour, though, more of a conversation topic.

Mock Cuncher wrote:

It's not really a rumour, though, more of a conversation topic.

A conversation he overheard yesterday? Sounds like deepthroat's making a comeback. Mind you that didn't stop those posts from staying on the main board or the trust board I suppose, and deepthroat overhead all his conversations so yeah kill postey tonight!

You don't have to overhear anything to realise that the club are dicing with the 60% wage cap rule. After submitting a ludicrous budget based on 7500 average crowdand missing that this weekend alone by over 1500 there were bound to be problems.

Notwithstanding the scrutiny the Football league will be applying to our books this season it doesn't augur well for next season when the budget will be have to be set on this years actuals.

We are therefore looking at an austerity budget with our footballing cloth cut accordingly. And this, unless Brent changes his mind, unsubsidised by his pension fund/Saltrock/hotel empire.

Watch out as well for season ticket figures (not memberships - a stupid idea that muddys the water) for next year. Who is going to believe any spin - 'biggest budget', 'going for promotion', 'Carls the man to lead us to the promised land' (great isn't it when the promised land is League 1), 'You back us and we'll back the team' etc etc. The club have been lucky with the Brent bounce on sales this year, I can't see that happening again.

It fits Brent perfectly though Dougie, I mean what better excuse can you have for cutting the cloth (yet again!) than a baloney fairy tale of an 8,000 average crowd expectation.

Its sad that it appears that we will have the biggest budget for a while, this season, (based on the ridiculous 7500 - 8000 crowd prediction) and we are struggling with relegation. The budget over the next few seasons will be a lot less than this season (without significant investment from other areas).

As Dougie alludes, next season will be based on actual figures (which without a decent DOF being appointed/ improvement in results/ removal on clueless) is not going to increase much above 6200 mark (even with Torquay and exeter games as our recent average is 5800).

Chemical Ali wrote:

Its sad that it appears that we will have the biggest budget for a while, this season, (based on the ridiculous 7500 - 8000 crowd prediction) and we are struggling with relegation. The budget over the next few seasons will be a lot less than this season (without significant investment from other areas).

As Dougie alludes, next season will be based on actual figures (which without a decent DOF being appointed/ improvement in results/ removal on clueless) is not going to increase much above 6200 mark (even with Torquay and exeter games as our recent average is 5800).

Isn't that what Brent would like us to believe though Mike..over inflate the budgeted crowd figures and there's a ready made excuse for cutting the cloth for several seasons to come or, create a logical and understandable budgeted crowd figure and lose the excuse for cutting the cloth?

It'll be interesting to read what the Trust PASB think about it when they read the club accounts because if they are not provided with the accounts it will lead to all sorts of suggestions.

Chemical Ali wrote:

Its sad that it appears that we will have the biggest budget for a while, this season, (based on the ridiculous 7500 - 8000 crowd prediction) and we are struggling with relegation. The budget over the next few seasons will be a lot less than this season (without significant investment from other areas).

As Dougie alludes, next season will be based on actual figures (which without a decent DOF being appointed/ improvement in results/ removal on clueless) is not going to increase much above 6200 mark (even with Torquay and exeter games as our recent average is 5800).

Struggling with relegation could be a game-set and match event for a few years yet.

As you say,the future does not look bright.

Postey is suggesting that JB sees Argyle as a long term project-

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JB has taken on a long-term project which is a rarity in football, especially when football fans are not the most patient. We won't see the results on and off the pitch for a while.
Fans are fickle and want instant success but it ain’t gonna happen at Argyle just yet.

The development of Home Park and the grandstand will take time and the club will reap the benefits of a completed grandstand and all the extras that brings.
The appointment of Colin Sexstone will give the whole club some much-needed football and administrative experience and the niggles and PR gaffes we've seen over the last few months should stop.

The budget recently needed a boost and JB ploughed in a significent sum. Some fans misread JB and his intentions and because of the failings of previous chairmen at Home Park and elsewhere in football JB get's placed into that same group when in fact he's different.

Does this mean we are relying on the new grandstand to significantly increase income so we can compete in League 2? JB said the aim was for Championship football- when does he envisage this will happen 2030?

Hooper also states that a new CEO is to be appointed- I've heard talk about Sextone being the likely Chairman, first I've heard on a CEO-

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So, is it all doom and gloom? I think not, not least because I understand we will be appointing a very welcome and experienced CEO very soon. In addition we will also be appointing an exceptional candidate as DofF. In the meantime, JB is matching the shortfall in income and will continue to do so.

There may be a number of problems at HP, but JB is not one of them currently, although he is major part of the solution.

Pasoti LINK

It's all sooooooooooooo convenient...if you're a property developer!

Brent needs to stop talking and just get on with the job. He has owned the club for over a year now and he is very little to show for it so far.

Its also good to see that PASB member Tony Hooper is holding Brent to account by licking his arse clean at every opportunity. JB needs more yes men!

So two fans know that Brent has put in a significant amount of money and that a CEO will be appointed soon. The Home Park boardroom seems to be getting a bit leaky recently. A cynic might say it was a deliberate PR ploy to keep the natives onside.

Chemical Ali wrote:

Postey is suggesting that JB sees Argyle as a long term project-

Quote :

JB has taken on a long-term project which is a rarity in football, especially when football fans are not the most patient. We won't see the results on and off the pitch for a while.
Fans are fickle and want instant success but it ain’t gonna happen at Argyle just yet.

The development of Home Park and the grandstand will take time and the club will reap the benefits of a completed grandstand and all the extras that brings.
The appointment of Colin Sexstone will give the whole club some much-needed football and administrative experience and the niggles and PR gaffes we've seen over the last few months should stop.

The budget recently needed a boost and JB ploughed in a significent sum. Some fans misread JB and his intentions and because of the failings of previous chairmen at Home Park and elsewhere in football JB get's placed into that same group when in fact he's different.

Does this mean we are relying on the new grandstand to significantly increase income so we can compete in League 2? JB said the aim was for Championship football- when does he envisage this will happen 2030?

Hooper also states that a new CEO is to be appointed- I've heard talk about Sextone being the likely Chairman, first I've heard on a CEO-

Quote :

So, is it all doom and gloom? I think not, not least because I understand we will be appointing a very welcome and experienced CEO very soon. In addition we will also be appointing an exceptional candidate as DofF. In the meantime, JB is matching the shortfall in income and will continue to do so.

There may be a number of problems at HP, but JB is not one of them currently, although he is major part of the solution.

Pasoti LINK

Phew, so when we're losing at home to Fleetwood, it'll be OK because JB has taken on a long term project. Never mind the 'impatient' fans used to being several divisions above Fleetwood Dwindling due to the piss poor entertainment. There is a plan allegedly.

The leaks to Postey and Pooper are very convenient, if It is found out later on that Brent hasn't put any funds into the club he can with hand on heart say that he didn't say he had done it.
My main concern when Brent took over was that we would struggle to compete in this shit league until the debt was paid off, I feel vindicated.

Iggy wrote:

The leaks to Postey and Pooper are very convenient, if It is found out later on that Brent hasn't put any funds into the club he can with hand on heart say that he didn't say he had done it.
My main concern when Brent took over was that we would struggle to compete in this shit league until the debt was paid off, I feel vindicated.

Yeah but credit where it's due, you're only vindicated because Brent backed a spectacularly shit horse as manager, not because he didn't cough up with a budget.

I've heard we've got the 4th biggest budget in the league- and I don't think that's some fabricated line either, because Cerbera and Rickler have posted similar and they're hardly nodding establishment men. His problem isn't that he hasn't fronted up with the cash, it's that he's basically done the equivalent of giving a 3 year old £300 in cash and asking him to come back from town with all the Christmas shopping.

He seems to be able to recognise exceptional individuals though. Newell, Webb, Fletcher

Brent's avery clever man.

Hardly anything that we think he said was actsully said by him, he uses several different mouthpieces to disseminate whatever information he wants without it ever being directly attributable to him.

When he does say anything it's usually a vague generalisation like "competative budget" which if you analyse it means sweet FA.

He's set up a "watchdog" to keep an eye on what his does, but if he ever tells them anything of any importance (like the budget, or anything to do with money,) they'll be bound by a confidentiality agreement" He has implied that he's supporting the club financially (he owns the club lock stock and barrell, who the hell else should be funding it?) But he gives no detail of how much he's putting in and morew importantly whether it's a gift or a loan.

The truth is, since coming out of Administration, there's been no public disclosure of the finances at Home Park- but Brent -through his yes men- has been disseminating info that we really have no way of authenticating.

Who really knows if the Business plan was based on crowds of 8000+? Is the football cxlub really losing money? Is Purse for sale for "financial reasons" or does he just want out?

PAFC is becoming more like The X Files every day- "Trust no one" Deny everything"

How easily some people are bought. It won't take long for fans in general to see the game being played. It's all about keeping fans on side in the modern way, no matter how badly the club are doing. This is what was promised.... fan involvment
How are we going to tell the difference between a Pasoti fact and a Brent fact, information and disinformation ...... and who is heading up the club Psyops platoon.... time for a cup of tea, I think.

You'll be up in the night.

I read that according to Cerbs, reminding the pasoti types of the disgraceful attempts to undermine the Trust is stirring up trouble!

Well I hope the trouble continues to be brought up time and time again and then time and time again and then time and time again so that all those that donated money, "worked their socks off", were slandered and slurred etc. etc. will be reminded of the shit heads that attempted to bring the Trust to its knees!

Maybe ATD wasn't the place for you after all Cerbs, because it won't be forgotten here and it won't be swept under the carpet and, if that means we'll be accused of creating trouble then I'm sure we'll all live with it.

I don't get Cerbs. He used to bandy around figures like our budget, city's budget, which were always disputed by our six fingered friends, and expected everyone to take them we fact. Now he's questioning babbas posts saying it's all speculation on babbas part that the break even figure is 8000. Well I for one saw el presidente's tweet to john Lloyd saying we were 2k below break even when our average was 6300 a month or so ago.

Maybe he's meaning to say that it's Chris Webb talking shit and he's better informed?

Greenjock wrote:

Maybe he's meaning to say that it's Chris Webb talking shit

Wouldn't be the first time