Fletcher resigns.

If anyone thinks argyle would be paying 2 k a week to a manager then they are kidding themselves.

After losing 1-0 last night to a team they ought to be beating wearing a dodgy rhubarb and custard kit, Man U fans searching for a long-term replacement for Sir Alex Ferguson foisted their eyes upon King Carl the Clueless Fletcher The Wretched and dribbled into their lukewarm pea soup in anticipation of him leading them to 3 points off the bottom of the Football League pyramid by 2016.

This is worse than last season, at least then there was some kind of excuse and we were lucky to stay in the league.

This season however there can be very little in the way of an excuse for the crap on the pitch week in week out, after all we have "a competitive budget" if that is the case where is it? is it wasted on to many crap players? or was that statement a bit of creative writing.

Something has to change PDQ with the manager and/or management or it's blue square for us.

Fletcher is genuinely pleased with the performance last night because we were slightly better than them in the second half so 50% of the game we deserved a point

WTF? We were a goal down you moron. We had to win the second half to get anything out of the game and you're happy because we were their equal for half of the game?

We're also not getting the rub of the green, what every week we are robbed?

He's a muppet. He thinks that performances count more than points at the moment. No clueless, even if it's a deflection off of someone's ass and then hanging on for the rest of the game that's better than playing well for a bit and getting no points.

I don't think he sees relegation as a possibility where I can see that losing on Saturday we could be cut adrift from the bulk of the league in a little pack of 6 teams of which 2 will go down.

I think at a guess we could take the cost of paying out Fletch, Ro and Nance at about £150k. £175k at the very most, I'd be gobsmacked if the three of them were on more than that combined.

Where will the money come from? Well Plymouth Argyle WILL run at a loss this season. That's pretty much nailed on certain. James Brent WILL have to subsidise the historical debt payments that we can't break even for as a result of that loss. Again that's been confirmed by James Brent at the PASBoard meeting so we can take it as certain.

Will we make up some (or a lot) of the £175k (which it may well be a lot less than) from sacking a new manager? Why not. Fletcher is a very high paid League 2 manager by all accounts, as is Larrieu as an assistant as a hangover from his NWO contract so we could probably save £25k there there we would have paid to this coaching team over a season and get some more competent staff in. Then there's the costs of the more fans who will turn up to see winning football. The costs of possible JPT progression or even winning it which are much higher with a good manager. The prize money from finishing up the league and of course the money saved avoiding relegation.


Of course a lot of that is speculative- but I think there's a very good chance we could actually break even on the costs associated with sacking Fletcher because him being here is costing us money in so many other ways. We're gonna make a loss this season, so James Brent's wallet WILL be lightened by May. Will it be lightened significantly, if at all more from sacking Fletcher as opposed to keeping him? I really, really don't think so and I'm yet to hear one convincing argument that it will.

While plotting the next move in his career, I wonder what the ageing legless Fletcher was telling the likes of Sturrock, Mariner and Reid over the years of his disastrous captaincy and as head boy of the dressing room.

"Don't worry, gaffer. It'll turn round, it always does"
Well, it certainly has for him. Seemingly, the safest manager in football for some curious reason.

GreenSam wrote:

I think at a guess we could take the cost of paying out Fletch, Ro and Nance at about £150k. £175k at the very most, I'd be gobsmacked if the three of them were on more than that combined.

Where will the money come from?...

I doubt we'd need to pay all 3 off as such anyway. We already know Brent is a master in negotiation, with his skills I'm sure he could come to some mutual agreement with Fletch which favours both the club (financially) and Fletch (gets to walk away with his CV intact). Ro and Nance (whose wage must surely be irrelevant in the grand scheme of things) can either be retained until the end of the season or more suitable roles can be negotiated.

So money for the new man?, make part of his remit offloading the deadwood starting in January. With improved results job done.

It sounds easy enough so why does Fletch appear to be unsackable?

Coxside_Green wrote:

GreenSam wrote:

I think at a guess we could take the cost of paying out Fletch, Ro and Nance at about £150k. £175k at the very most, I'd be gobsmacked if the three of them were on more than that combined.

Where will the money come from?...

I doubt we'd need to pay all 3 off as such anyway. We already know Brent is a master in negotiation, with his skills I'm sure he could come to some mutual agreement with Fletch which favours both the club (financially) and Fletch (gets to walk away with his CV intact). Ro and Nance (whose wage must surely be irrelevant in the grand scheme of things) can either be retained until the end of the season or more suitable roles can be negotiated.

So money for the new man?, make part of his remit offloading the deadwood starting in January. With improved results job done.

It sounds easy enough so why does Fletch appear to be unsackable?

Hmmm. Ro and Nance would probably have to be paid a years worth of wages anyway, bear in mind that they two have been quoted as being on rolling contracts. They've got no obligation to shift for any less than a penny less than their year's wages if that's the case, unless they should chose to do so of their own will.

So we'd probably either have to pay their year off now or continue to pay them until June for moving cones about and then pay off their year. Either way it involves paying their wages for the duration of the season. I stand by that the overall compo would cost £150k-£175k but I do agree with the overall thrust of what your trying to say. It isn't undoable and we'd come close to leveling out the expenditure from a cheaper but better new coaching staff, higher gates and higher income as a result of success on the pitch.

In truth, keeping Fletcher and his staff and sacking them are both expensive options. I think keeping them could be that little bit more expensive. Either way a change must be made.