Copper Vote

Anyone voting tomorrow?

I hear the landlord of the Clipper (the pub that seems to be open 24 hours on Union Street), Tam McPherson, is going for the commissioner role- he gets my vote- the others look like politicians

Plymouth Commissioner Candidates

You sure about that, Chem?

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Maybe not then

The expected turnout is 15%

It has cost an absolute fortune (the postal costs alone would make your head explode) and the winner will land a quango job on £80k+ a year.

It's a complete and utter White Elephant and makes our PASB thing look like the UN.

Indeed, if you vote for anyone though, vote independent, party politics should have butt all to do with policing.

Have not heard anything from any candidate, do not know any of them, so can only vote on party lines as you know broadly where they stand.

Having not had ANY of the candidates try and win my vote with any leaflets or such i really cant be arse to vote for a position that is purely for show.

It's funny but even the party political candidates seem to be trying to play down their party ties. As if they could if push came to shove. Apart from anything else it asking something for an individual tp put up £5000 as a deposit and find funds for campaigning. Only someone fairly well off could afford to do it.

Anyway it's a bit like the GasBoard thing as Argyle ie it's not needed when you've got the Trust. The present system regarding the police could have been tweaked to make it more visible and more aware and accountable to local areas.

X Isle wrote:

Indeed, if you vote for anyone though, vote independent, party politics should have butt all to do with policing.

Ideally yes but it is unavoidable. The moment an election starts it becomes political (even if it isnt party political). And given the role of the police in various political disputes they themselves are politicised whether they like it or not. But given that the winner will not be in control of operational policing I don't really see the point of it at all.

.......especially when the present police authorities comprise elected councillors anyway providing a broad spread of politics and experience. A spread lost overnight by electing ONE person to do the same job. And to think, the £76,000,000 it's costing us is being justified on grounds of democracy - it's less democratic and less representative than what it's replacing.

And Pete, if you insist on going on party lines don't fall into the trap of believing the Tories are the party of law and order, that's a title they like to give themselves. They're the party of run things to the bone, the party of 'we know better than you plebs'. If you think no money and a sneery patronising attitude will drive any improvement, think again.

X Isle wrote:

.......especially when the present police authorities comprise elected councillors anyway providing a broad spread of politics and experience. A spread lost overnight by electing ONE person to do the same job. And to think, the £76,000,000 it's costing us is being justified on grounds of democracy - it's less democratic and less representative than what it's replacing.

And Pete, if you insist on going on party lines don't fall into the trap of believing the Tories are the party of law and order, that's a title they like to give themselves. They're the party of run things to the bone, the party of 'we know better than you plebs'. If you think no money and a sneery patronising attitude will drive any improvement, think again.

Voted Lib Dem as they appear to be harmless, with Labour as second choice, have only ever voted Tory once in my life and there were special circumstances.

If u can just let us know who we should vote for xisle, that'd be great. Cheers.

'Labour' tories & libdems are all the same. They all believe the same globalist, capitalist shit and are all slaves to international banking and the EU. I wouldn't vote for any of this crap ever. Time for revolution.

Czarcasm wrote:

If u can just let us know who we should vote for xisle, that'd be great. Cheers.

Which corrupt shower of shite should I vote for? They're all as bad as each other.

Freathy wrote:

'Labour' tories & libdems are all the same. They all believe the same globalist, capitalist shit and are all slaves to international banking and the EU. I wouldn't vote for any of this crap ever. Time for revolution.

This, will big Christmas bells on.

Did anyone vote?

ERS predicting lowest ever national poll turn-out.

I voted although I must say I was suprised there was no 'programme' pushed through the door regarding policies etc of candidates.

The right to vote has been hard won by our fore fathers & many people forget that.
Whilst on the face of it our vote counts for little at least we do get a say.

I voted. I was the only one in there when I did. Took the staff by surprise.

If you don't vote you can't moan I suppose.

All the regions are having a civilian responsible for handling the budget for the police in that area and as the kind of watchdog I suppose.

Somebody else could explain it better and put some meat on the bones, but it's been met with general apathy.

Where did Rickler's post go? Looks like I'm talking to myself again.

I didn't bother as I had no idea who was standing because there was no infomation around.

You are the surfer and I claim my £10!

Greenjock wrote:

Where did Rickler's post go? Looks like I'm talking to myself again.

I deleted it...

Actually read the small print and worked out it was a regional thing and not a national one, therefore rendering the point of my post redundant.

However... Glad to hear you voted, Jock!

Rickler wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Where did Rickler's post go? Looks like I'm talking to myself again.

I deleted it...

Actually read the small print and worked out it was a regional thing and not a national one, therefore rendering the point of my post redundant.

However... Glad to hear you voted, Jock!

This is the official job role:

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My man, Angus Mcpherson, has been elected with a turnout of 14.68%. Not exactly a stampede to vote!