Happy Days!

Happy indeed.

Plz no glorification of thuggery or aggro Gob.

We don't want greenjock getting too excited.

Mock Cuncher wrote:

Plz no glorification of thuggery or aggro Gob.

We don't want greenjock getting too excited.

Fook off I'm a pacifist. It's Mike Newell you want to look out for

Greenjock wrote:

Mock Cuncher wrote:

Plz no glorification of thuggery or aggro Gob.

We don't want greenjock getting too excited.

Fook off I'm a pacifist. It's Mike Newell you want to look out for

Here we go again........

Greenjock, picking the scab since 1983.

Football hoolies are wankers - I read one book once by some Chelsea fan and he was an utter arsehole who essentially wrote some kind of fantasy novel about how he single handedly beat up the entire population of Sheffield. It's the worst thing about football.

hairy j wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Mock Cuncher wrote:

Plz no glorification of thuggery or aggro Gob.

We don't want greenjock getting too excited.

Fook off I'm a pacifist. It's Mike Newell you want to look out for

Here we go again........

Greenjock, picking the scab since 1983.

Football hoolies are wankers - I read one book once by some Chelsea fan and he was an utter arsehole who essentially wrote some kind of fantasy novel about how he single handedly beat up the entire population of Sheffield. It's the worst thing about football.

Hairy J the voice of reason

Saddest thread ever. Can't we leave the hoolie love-in to Noolie and his stooges?

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Saddest thread ever. Can't we leave the hoolie love-in to Noolie and his stooges?

Well said Sir

GOB yesterday



I've always wondered why hoolies always hurl seasonal furniture at one another.



And hit each other with invisible steam irons

Watching that brings it home as to how crazy those days were and what they eventually led to.Some of the explanations were a bit simplistic,especially implying that hooliganism started in the 1970's with the football specials-it started in the early 1960's and i would say that the coming of the motorways played just as big a part in facilitating easier travel-can't remember any football specials when Argyle turned over Blackburn and Peterborough,as i recall it was a fleet of buses and hired mini buses that were used and i was present when Argyle fans gave Gordano services a complete trashing on the way back from Swindon.I can't honestly say that watching that film gave me any feelings of nostalgia,although there was unquestionably an adrenaline buzz present when Chelsea,Stoke or whoever visited or when you went to a ground where danger was always lurking and the atmosphere raw.I would never have dreamed of wearing any Argyle scarf or colours at any away ground in fact,not unless there was safety in numbers.There was also the shit inducement factor at a lot of matches [Pompey 83 particularly stands out in that respect] and although the atmosphere has been sanitised to some degree,i think i much prefer going to football in todays climate,maybe its just getting older that does it.It was certainly a different world back then though.

After watching the under 21 tonight do you thinks things as changed?

Crazy they were GS and you're right, much of that isn't very accurate as far as the travel is concerned but there was one phrase that kinda struck home regarding the majority being hooligans, they were or they were at the very least a very large minority.

I would hate to see football return to those days but as you say, there was an enjoyable rawness about the atmosphere that is lacking today and I don't think it's possible to create it with the hooligan element. Age definitely makes a difference along with an alarming drop in testosterone!

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Saddest thread ever. Can't we leave the hoolie love-in to Noolie and his stooges?

If you want censorship SFD then pasoti would be the place. Lessons are learnt from history or should we just forget about what happened tonight regarding the under 21s?

Where did I say the thread should be censored? I didn't. I didn't even hint at it. I suggested that glorification of hooliganism is pathetic. Nothing more. Revelling in the good old days and condemning tonights events in Serbia is massively contradictory. Logically Noolesque in fact.

Who on earth is reveling in it? I don't see a single post on here that is even remotely suggesting it other than a comment regarding adrenalin, however, if you wish to adopt your own context then by all means do as is often the agenda of one or two on another site.

GOB wrote:

Who on earth is reveling in it? I don't see a single post on here that is even remotely suggesting it other than a comment regarding adrenalin, however, if you wish to adopt your own context then by all means do as is often the agenda of one or two on another site.

The title of the thread is Happy Days though GOB

Ironic maybe? I have to agree with GS, those days have shaped how I behave at matches and in fact wherever I am out in pubs at gigs ect. My boy went to Pompey a couple of years ago and I was horrified when he left wearing his Argyle shirt, he said it wouldn,t be a problem and it wasn't. I have been running along with Pompey fans pretending to be one of them ten minutes after they had been chasing me baying for blood! I don,t miss things like having my nose broken by a Barnsley fan, having a proper kicking at Cardiff and I must have run about 1000 miles being chased by rival fans, it,s no wonder I was so good at cross country. What I do miss is that raw atmosphere that has been mentioned, the visit of city was the nearest we have been to that atmosphere in recent years, and that is a good example of highlighting the hysteria that follows large groups of football fans nowadays. There were about a dozen knob ears in both sections of the crowd and I am not condoning their behaviour but the atmosphere was bloody brilliant, and if it was more like it I would go more often, FV don,t come close.

Iggy wrote:

Ironic maybe? I have to agree with GS, those days have shaped how I behave at matches and in fact wherever I am out in pubs at gigs ect. My boy went to Pompey a couple of years ago and I was horrified when he left wearing his Argyle shirt, he said it wouldn,t be a problem and it wasn't. I have been running along with Pompey fans pretending to be one of them ten minutes after they had been chasing me baying for blood! I don,t miss things like having my nose broken by a Barnsley fan, having a proper kicking at Cardiff and I must have run about 1000 miles being chased by rival fans, it,s no wonder I was so good at cross country. What I do miss is that raw atmosphere that has been mentioned, the visit of city was the nearest we have been to that atmosphere in recent years, and that is a good example of highlighting the hysteria that follows large groups of football fans nowadays. There were about a dozen knob ears in both sections of the crowd and I am not condoning their behaviour but the atmosphere was bloody brilliant, and if it was more like it I would go more often, FV don,t come close.

I don't regret some of the tight situations I found myself in over the years. The adrenaline of going away was like crack cocaine as a tennager in the mid 80's. I have mixed feelings nowadays. I like a bit of spice at a game and I feel sorry for the teenagers these days who only have drums, flags, car stickers and cover versions of mediocre 1960's pop songs that have lines that rhyme with Griffiths. My boy is 3 though and do I want him punched in the face in years to come by a Derby fan......probably not.

Nick Wall wrote:

Iggy wrote:

Ironic maybe? I have to agree with GS, those days have shaped how I behave at matches and in fact wherever I am out in pubs at gigs ect. My boy went to Pompey a couple of years ago and I was horrified when he left wearing his Argyle shirt, he said it wouldn,t be a problem and it wasn't. I have been running along with Pompey fans pretending to be one of them ten minutes after they had been chasing me baying for blood! I don,t miss things like having my nose broken by a Barnsley fan, having a proper kicking at Cardiff and I must have run about 1000 miles being chased by rival fans, it,s no wonder I was so good at cross country. What I do miss is that raw atmosphere that has been mentioned, the visit of city was the nearest we have been to that atmosphere in recent years, and that is a good example of highlighting the hysteria that follows large groups of football fans nowadays. There were about a dozen knob ears in both sections of the crowd and I am not condoning their behaviour but the atmosphere was bloody brilliant, and if it was more like it I would go more often, FV don,t come close.

I don't regret some of the tight situations I found myself in over the years. The adrenaline of going away was like crack cocaine as a tennager in the mid 80's. I have mixed feelings nowadays. I like a bit of spice at a game and I feel sorry for the teenagers these days who only have drums, flags, car stickers and cover versions of mediocre 1960's pop songs that have lines that rhyme with Griffiths. My boy is 3 though and do I want him punched in the face in years to come by a Derby fan......probably not.

This sums up my feelings too. You had the choice to walk away from trouble if you wanted to, or you could be on the periphery which was exciting because it was dangerous.

I never set out looking for trouble at a game, but in the mid 80's through to the mid 90's I went to dozens of away games where trouble erupted, often in the pub you were drinking in and sometimes you had to protect yourself.

I've been to Exeter, Cardiff, Leeds, Stoke, West Ham, Bristol games where you knew beforehand that there was a good chance of trouble starting, but my worst experience came at Mansfield away. Tiny crowd in comparison to lots of other games, but five of us found ourselves surrounded by a baying crowd of about 50 Mansfield fans after the game. All the other Argyle fans had gone back to their coaches or the train station, but we had thought we would find a b+b to stay the Saturday night.

We had no idea it was such a shithole with loads of boarded up shops, no coal industry anymore, high unemployment and so many pissed off youngsters looking for anything exciting to do.

We were chased and caught by a few of them at a hospital and eventually we just had to face them as there was nowhere else to go.

The fighting only lasted a few minutes before the police turned up, but I had size 10 Doc Martens shaped bruises on my back and chest for weeks lol.

Fortunately the friendly local bobbies assessed the situation and decided that it was our idea to try and take on three Mansfield fans each, so we were escorted out of town by two police cars, even though all the drivers were blatantly still drunk from a heavy session before the game.

Once out of their town the police didn't care where we went or what state the driver was in.

Looking back it's fun but I absolutely crapped myself that day and could've been seriously injured if we hadn't outrun the majority of them.

Iggy sussed!

I think I may have just managed a, as they say over "there", woosh

The good old bad old days.

What can I say, different times.

[quote="Greenjock"
Looking back it's fun but I absolutely crapped myself that day and could've been seriously injured if we hadn't outrun the majority of them.[/quote]

no problem doing that in mansfield now, theyre all fat bastards!

Mapperley, darling wrote:

[quote="Greenjock"
Looking back it's fun but I absolutely crapped myself that day and could've been seriously injured if we hadn't outrun the majority of them.

no problem doing that in mansfield now, theyre all fat bastards![/quote]

I had no idea it was such a shithole though. I was expecting a leafy extension of the nice areas of Nottingham

To make things worse it was a boring 0-0 draw, the beer was shit and I dropped my chips when they charged towards us. I was feckin starving too

Stayed overnight in Mansfield over 40 years ago when I was hitching. The centre at night felt a bit like the Wild West even then.

Greenjock wrote:

Mapperley, darling wrote:

[quote="Greenjock"
Looking back it's fun but I absolutely crapped myself that day and could've been seriously injured if we hadn't outrun the majority of them.

no problem doing that in mansfield now, theyre all fat bastards!

I had no idea it was such a shithole though. I was expecting a leafy extension of the nice areas of Nottingham

To make things worse it was a boring 0-0 draw, the beer was shit and I dropped my chips when they charged towards us. I was feckin starving too [/quote]

was that an opening day fixture? ive been to a couple of argo games there, both ended in draws, one was nil nil the other two each