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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:12 am

Wind your neck in pal how many care who Nikkk is, how many people view this site in a week because in a week or less this thread will be dead and buried
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:13 am

Take your own advice, Sean - Chill.

No-one has outed Nikk. everything the Mods have done is to try and preserve his anonymity whilst not stifling debate on here.

Nikk's a successful businessman, a mention on a small supporters messageboard, even if it is at a third or fourth degree of separation shouldn't faze him. He will continue to do what he thinks is right. And it's not as if the Mods haven't done everything in their power to appraise him of the situation.

And on a related point - when are you going to start to get angry at the one person who has it in his power to pay up the unpaid staff tomorrow? If Brent had done the moral, decent thing and paid the staff who'd kept his property investment opportunity alive, then this debate would be redundant.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:14 am

Perhaps he didn't think people would be trawling the internet searching for information on his company either FB.

Perhaps, PERHAPS he wanted to put a bit more money into the club, and receive a bit of advertising for it. I take it every other sponsorship board around Home Park has passed the ATD test then
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:15 am

Don't be such a drama queen Sean. Nikkk's identity (given what he's done) has been a huge source of interest and speculation since he started pledging such vast amounts, and on Pasoti, long before on here.

I'm sure many, many people already knew his identity and have respected his wishes for it not to be divulged. That still leaves many more outside the inner circle who have every legitimate right to follow clues and speculate who he might be after what he's achieved. If his identity is eventually confirmed then I'm sure all people will want to do is shake his hand.

I'm also pretty sure that if he want's to continue supporting the staff, the loss of anonominity won't stop him.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:16 am

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Take your own advice, Sean - Chill.

No-one has outed Nikk. everything the Mods have done is to try and preserve his anonymity whilst not stifling debate on here.

Nikk's a successful businessman, a mention on a small supporters messageboard, even if it is at a third or fourth degree of separation shouldn't faze him. He will continue to do what he thinks is right. And it's not as if the Mods haven't done everything in their power to appraise him of the situation.

And on a related point - when are you going to start to get angry at the one person who has it in his power to pay up the unpaid staff tomorrow? If Brent had done the moral, decent thing and paid the staff who'd kept his property investment opportunity alive, then this debate would be redundant.

For there is nothing we can do Andy. The forms have been signed. They had to be or PAFC would be no more.

A no brainer for most people.

What we can do, is not scare off the people who are trying to get that money back quicker
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:20 am

The forms may well have been signed, but my point stands - Brent has it within his power to authorise payment of all outstanding monies, today if he so desired. i'm amazed that people can't see it for what it is - the poorest and most deserving people caught up in the whole sorry mess are being used to subsidise an incredibly wealthy property developer.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:26 am

pilgrim_pete wrote:
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So the man, who has donated I'm guessing over 100k to the staff fund, who asked to have his identity kept secret so he could keep donating has been outed by ATD.

Well I'm sure the staff are very grateful for your efforts.

Oh here we go! The "Groupie" who would do anything the GT's asked him to, who was "outed" himself by Ian Newell and Chris Webb as Greenman is back onside Sleep

What was your reward for turning a blind eye to the great Ian Newell and Club President stitching you up like a kipper? Or was Newell "misquoted" when he told me over and over again it was you issuing the threats to my family like a coward? When he told me all about you being starstruck by the GT's? And what about Chris Webb confirming it all over and over again?

Grow up Sean and go back to doing what you do best. Tugging your forelock and bowing down to the good and the great.

I bow to your eternal wisdom Greenjock.

Yes Ian Chris and the Green Taverners all came around my house for dinner yesterday, where it was detailed exactly what I was to post on ATD.

People are different GJ. I was happy to let the whole incident run under the bridge - I was cleared and after that I truly do not give a shit.

Chill.

Your Mum does a big roast then Sean!

Of course you're happy to let it all go and remain friendly with the people who used you and could have seen you come to physical harm. It's quite normal to be outed by the chuckle brothers and still remain friends. Tony C and Lee Jameson manage to shrug it all off too!

You are being used as a pawn in a silly game Sean. You were basically ridiculed endlessly by two people you bow and scrape to. One of whom sent a white feather to a very sick person on Saturday, for the crime of naming Chris Webb's publicity shy son in a post. It's a shame they don't feel the same way about outing you.

I just hope one day you wake up and realise how little those people thought of you and were willing to throw you to the lions to protect their own deceitful asses.

Oh and while you're feeling so benevolent and forgiving towards Laurel and Hardy, try forgiving whoever supposedly outed Nikk on here.

You can't have your cake and eat it Sean. No matter if it is a big cake with GT icing in green.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:33 am

PP - if you are going to hold ATD responsible for outing Nikkk what do you think of the person who told everyone he had paid for it and then posted a picture of it on twitter? Surely he is responsible too?
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:39 am

I have defended Nikk from the odd slur. He's a good man for having donated so much.

The mods on here have known his identity for some time and there has not been a whisper from that direction. There was one post that identified him and it was removed immediately pending discussion.

But this is not the potential outing of some plant operating within an al Qaeda cell whose life would be at risk. I would hope he continues to donate. There is no reason he should stop. He can always do that anonymously.

As for your assumption about the financial situations of posters on here , pp, ..... how the hell do you know anything about that?

And if Jock really has been having a go at Saint Cilla then, in my opinion, he should be banned. I shall bring it up in the mod room for discussion.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:41 am

knecht wrote:
I have defended Nikk from the odd slur. He's a good man for having donated so much.

The mods on here have known his identity for some time and there has not been a whisper from that direction. There was one post that identified him and it was removed immediately pending discussion.

But this is not the potential outing of some plant operating within an al Qaeda cell whose life would be at risk. I would hope he continues to donate. There is no reason he should stop. He can always do that anonymously.

As for your assumption about the financial situations of posters on here , pp, ..... how the hell do you know anything about that?


And if Jock really has been having a go at Saint Cilla then, in my opinion, he should be banned. I shall bring it up in the mod room for discussion.

Confused at this bit Knecht??? Don't know where I have mentioned that.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:44 am

I quote:

"Shall I tell you for whom the 'adulation' will never wear thin. And that is from the 60 odd staff who worked for 9 months - WITHOUT pay. Can you imagine what that is like? Mortgages to upkeep, bills to pay, food to buy.. And your income taken away for 9 months. Normality has been resumed to a degree now, but the vast majority of these staff still have debts and loans from that period, I know that for a fact.

As much as I dislike some of you as posters on here (I'm sure you are all nice as pie in real life ) I really hope none of you have to experience what the staff went through - to keep YOUR football club alive. So many personal sacrifices made, houses and cars sold, huge loans taken out - just to keep PAFC going.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:45 am

Where have I assumed any knowledge of the financial situation of posters on here???
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:48 am

Hey PP, here's one for your pasoti to make a meal of in their next club advert, WANKER lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:51 am

Added to that PP, it wasn't,t just you Christ and Ian that saved the club, it was all the fans including most of atd posters, we all give a shit about the staff, more so than the lap dogs as we on the whole wanted Brent to pay them out immediately so that moderately poor people like ourselves didn't,t have to dig deep in our pockets in these hardvtimes to ease the cash flow of a multi millionaire property developer. So take your holier than thou attitude and go shove it where the sun don,t shine wanker. jocolor
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 10:53 am

You're too kind Iggy.

Although once have I never claimed it was just myself that saved the club, you can run with that if you want. Annoying, yes. But that is not my style.

We all did our bit.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 11:05 am

And in any case who's to say the link is correct. And I can't beleive that anyone who doesn't want to know who he might be would bother to follow through with a quick goggle. A position of some kind of moral high ground might have been achieved if you hadn't but you had

to open the twitter feed
find the pertinent tweet
open the tweet
click on the link for the picture
look at the picture
open a new window or tab
open google
type the name of the company in google
look at the results

all quite knowing and complicite
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 11:09 am

I guess pilgrim_pete has forgiven Newell and Webb for saying he was Greenman then?
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 11:11 am

Who the fcuk has even said the speculation is correct? the clue is in the thread title which makes it just that PP, SPECULATION. It's alright for pasoti to out Davd Norris, Luggy or Nik Warren when they thought it was them though. Hypocrite, fcuk off back to your masters.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 11:11 am

Oh and just to add Sean your first post is as FAR FAR FAR wide of the mark as you can get.

Nice try though.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 11:12 am

Yea Man wrote:
Oh and just to add Sean your first post is as FAR FAR FAR wide of the mark as you can get.

Nice try though.

I take it you haven't been to watch us play lately then YM....
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 11:13 am

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You're too kind Iggy.

Although once have I never claimed it was just myself that saved the club, you can run with that if you want. Annoying, yes. But that is not my style.

We all did our bit.

Yes Sean, we ALL did our bit. Some don't go shouting it from the rooftops though, or boring the shit out of people sat at the next table in a restaurant, or fuckassing around with bogus auctions that are designed to show what an amazingly generous person you are to the watching audience, and then have the watching audience complain about publicising the generous persons identity scratch

Some did far more than others. Some gave far more than they could afford. Some gave time when they couldn't give money. Some people went to extreme lengths, like Nikk and Sue Pollard, and some went to extreme lengths to hide how much they were giving in case their partner found out because they were struggling themselves. Some gave other people cash to make payments on cards so their partner would not see the transactions on statements.

And I'm pretty feckin sure that some don't like a snotty nosed kid who is having his strings pulled by others coming on here and basically asking people what they did in the war and telling them they know nothing of the sacrifices other people made. TELLING people who saved the club and who deserves a medal and who doesn't.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 11:13 am

Nope I refuse to make a 400 mile round trip and fork out over £100 in doing so to watch the shit that is being served up at the moment.

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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 11:15 am

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You're too kind Iggy.

Although once have I never claimed it was just myself that saved the club, you can run with that if you want. Annoying, yes. But that is not my style.

We all did our bit.

Yes Sean, we ALL did our bit. Some don't go shouting it from the rooftops though, or boring the shit out of people sat at the next table in a restaurant, or fuckassing around with bogus auctions that are designed to show what an amazingly generous person you are to the watching audience, and then have the watching audience complain about publicising the generous persons identity scratch

Some did far more than others. Some gave far more than they could afford. Some gave time when they couldn't give money. Some people went to extreme lengths, like Nikk and Sue Pollard, and some went to extreme lengths to hide how much they were giving in case their partner found out because they were struggling themselves. Some gave other people cash to make payments on cards so their partner would not see the transactions on statements.

And I'm pretty feckin sure that some don't like a snotty nosed kid who is having his strings pulled by others coming on here and basically asking people what they did in the war and telling them they know nothing of the sacrifices other people made. TELLING people who saved the club and who deserves a medal and who doesn't.

The person who SHOULD have a problem with this thread and discussion has assured us there is NO problem whatsoever with discussions around his identity and just because it is being discussed doesn't mean he will withdraw from "supporting" the club.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 11:17 am

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The forms may well have been signed, but my point stands - Brent has it within his power to authorise payment of all outstanding monies, today if he so desired. i'm amazed that people can't see it for what it is - the poorest and most deserving people caught up in the whole sorry mess are being used to subsidise an incredibly wealthy property developer.
Those with misgivings over the deal they were offered were hounded by a certain chap who was then handed the gong title of President, who in spite of his heavily publicised Union background was perpetuating the disgusting myth that a multi-multi-multi-millionaire couldn't afford to pay them what they were owed.
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PostSubject: Re: Coincidence?   Coincidence? - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 08, 2012 11:22 am

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You're too kind Iggy.

Although once have I never claimed it was just myself that saved the club, you can run with that if you want. Annoying, yes. But that is not my style.

We all did our bit.

Yes Sean, we ALL did our bit. Some don't go shouting it from the rooftops though, or boring the shit out of people sat at the next table in a restaurant, or fuckassing around with bogus auctions that are designed to show what an amazingly generous person you are to the watching audience, and then have the watching audience complain about publicising the generous persons identity scratch

Some did far more than others. Some gave far more than they could afford. Some gave time when they couldn't give money. Some people went to extreme lengths, like Nikk and Sue Pollard, and some went to extreme lengths to hide how much they were giving in case their partner found out because they were struggling themselves. Some gave other people cash to make payments on cards so their partner would not see the transactions on statements.

And I'm pretty feckin sure that some don't like a snotty nosed kid who is having his strings pulled by others coming on here and basically asking people what they did in the war and telling them they know nothing of the sacrifices other people made. TELLING people who saved the club and who deserves a medal and who doesn't.

Nope, not once have I asked here what people did 'in the war'.

And with respect, I don't think the majority on here DO know the sacrifices the people made. If they did, I don't think they would be trying to interfere and reveal a poster who is trying to give a fair portion of money back.

Good to see you think I am getting my strings pulled though. It's always fun to watch people get outraged that a young person has his own opinion. If you don't like what I say GJ then fine. Whatever. I couldn't give a shit. But whatever I do say is my own opinion. I know that probably hurts you deep down, but it's true. Sorry my old chum.

All I will say on the matter anyway.
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