EVEN I HAVE HAD ENOUGH!!!

FFS to everything.

Even I, strongly known for being optimistic and supportive (maybe a little to much at times) have nearly given it to all this shit going on at the moment.

We are a club in freefall.

Even if we get taken over where is our feckin future going to lay with 4 foot Mr Heaney leading the way, nowhere.

After todays match we are a team of nobodys, club rejects and teenagers who cant seem to do the simplest thing right.

To top it all of lets be fair, what the hell has Peter Reid done in his time here apart from relegation.

Always been fairly loyal so will obviously attend all home games and some away games but today I found myself wondering why the feck do I bother.

Liquidation or the BSP and beyond with that carrot headed cock and Peter reids team of shite.

This season will bring one of two scenarios:

a) survival and relegation out of the FL
b) liquidation.

Scenario a) Our nose dive won't stop at the BSP as neither heaney or brent/pasoti trust have a penny to scratch their arses with so a fourth relegation to whatever is below the BSP is almost certain. With no funding from either the parasitic heaney or brent/pasoti trust it will be a very long time before we eventually crawl back up to the BSP and then back into the FL

Scenario b) Starting again from scratch will mean more tiers to climb back up to the FL but given the terrible state we're currently in and who will be taking over, in terms of time it probably won't take much longer than scenario a. And we'd be completely free of the shysters and parasites.

So at the moment i'm edging towards support for scenario b.

Cobi Budge wrote:

FFS to everything.

Even I, strongly known for being optimistic and supportive (maybe a little to much at times) have nearly given it to all this shit going on at the moment.

We are a club in freefall.

Even if we get taken over where is our feckin future going to lay with 4 foot Mr Heaney leading the way, nowhere.

After todays match we are a team of nobodys, club rejects and teenagers who cant seem to do the simplest thing right.

To top it all of lets be fair, what the hell has Peter Reid done in his time here apart from relegation.

Always been fairly loyal so will obviously attend all home games and some away games but today I found myself wondering why the feck do I bother.

Liquidation or the BSP and beyond with that carrot headed cock and Peter reids team of shite.

The boy has seen the light !

Now all you have to do is see Napoleon for the dimwitted social climber he is.......................

NOT EVEN TO MENTION TO MORAL LEVELS OF NOT PAYING THE STAF, IF WE GET LIQUIDATED THEIR STUNNING EFFORTS ARE FOR NOTHING!!!!

Freathy wrote:

This season will bring one of two scenarios:

a) survival and relegation out of the FL
b) liquidation.

Scenario a) Our nose dive won't stop at the BSP as neither heaney or brent/pasoti trust have a penny to scratch their arses with so a fourth relegation to whatever is below the BSP is almost certain. With no funding from either the parasitic heaney or brent/pasoti trust it will be a very long time before we eventually crawl back up to the BSP and then back into the FL

Scenario b) Starting again from scratch will mean more tiers to climb back up to the FL but given the terrible state we're currently in and who will be taking over, in terms of time it probably won't take much longer than scenario a. And we'd be completely free of the shysters and parasites.

So at the moment i'm edging towards support for scenario b.

Hell yeah

The only slight emmendment i'd make is that the more unified and value driven option of Plan B could arrest the slide because people might reinvest pride, passion and belief again.......and with it their money.

But starting again rids us of all but ourselves, that can only be a good thing.

X Isle wrote:

Freathy wrote:

This season will bring one of two scenarios:

a) survival and relegation out of the FL
b) liquidation.

Scenario a) Our nose dive won't stop at the BSP as neither heaney or brent/pasoti trust have a penny to scratch their arses with so a fourth relegation to whatever is below the BSP is almost certain. With no funding from either the parasitic heaney or brent/pasoti trust it will be a very long time before we eventually crawl back up to the BSP and then back into the FL

Scenario b) Starting again from scratch will mean more tiers to climb back up to the FL but given the terrible state we're currently in and who will be taking over, in terms of time it probably won't take much longer than scenario a. And we'd be completely free of the shysters and parasites.

So at the moment i'm edging towards support for scenario b.

Hell yeah

The only slight emmendment i'd make is that the more unified and value driven option of Plan B could arrest the slide because people might reinvest pride, passion and belief again.......and with it their money.

But starting again rids us of all but ourselves, that can only be a good thing.

AFC Argyle ? Led by the likes of Newell no doubt ? How's that for being caught between a rock and a hard head.........I mean place

There's that interpersonal c0ck comparison thing again, it turns me right off.

The only personality I care about the personality of Argyle, i'll share a drink and an Argyle chat with anyone with Argyle in their hearts, however much of a c0ck-knocker they may be. I simply don't get the distinction between one fan and another, forgive, forget & unify. If you simply can't do the first two then do the third one just ignore them and learn to lump them.

Sorted...........world peace and the Palastine issue, then tea .

Smiffy, you're forgetting what it's all about. Yes it bores the crap out of me even though I'm a part of it, but you miss two points, firstly Newell is very much a part of the problem. He is one of the worst judges of character that I have ever encountered and represents not a single soul, yet he is invited to attend meetings representing who? - That makes him a problem and should be discussed.

Secondly, this site is not a site where our posts are edited or removed or members banned for having a view that certain individuals deem to be not their cup of tea. No person on here is arrogant enough to believe that they have the individual right and wisdom to ride shotgun over other members.

It is and will hopefully remain, the right of anyone to use this site as they see fit, nobody is stigmatised or ridiculed for not using this site or for using pasoti or any other site, unfortunately those that claim to represent pasoti and the pasoti trust cannot claim the same freedoms.

You have freedom of choice Smiffy, if you wish to read it then fine, if not then that's also fine, but you should never criticise others for an agenda that simply differs from yours.

X Isle wrote:

There's that interpersonal c0ck comparison thing again, it turns me right off.

The only personality I care about the personality of Argyle, i'll share a drink and an Argyle chat with anyone with Argyle in their hearts, however much of a c0ck-knocker they may be. I simply don't get the distinction between one fan and another, forgive, forget & unify. If you simply can't do the first two then do the third one just ignore them and learn to lump them.

Sorted...........world peace and the Palastine issue, then tea .

I too accept that the exchanges between Newell and some of us on here are tedious but how can we unite and fall into line behind someone who, no matter how dedicated and earnest, invariably backs the wrong horse and who attempts to silence those who can see the bigger picture ?
I seem to remember some exchanges with your good self Smiffy, when you too were 'enjoying the ride'. Didn't we have a £10 bet over Norris & Halmosi departing Home Park, or was that someone else ? I didn't last long enough to collect.
Newell's delight at banning we visionaries on spurious charges, did rather get up my nose and so the war of piss taking commenced. It has now become habitual and has spread to other forums including Exeweb where he has been further exposed for the internet bully and cheat he really is.
Fans of other clubs have complained about the bickering and unpleasantness on theirs and shared forums but it involves far too many people with a grudge against Newell, to be a coincidence.
He wanted a squeaky keen, happy clappy Pasoti and until recent months when he has had to accept all views[ including your own change of mindset], he purged the farm of supposed negativity, when it was in fact, reality.
Your outpourings over the last few months would not have been tolerated and you know it.

I honestly can't remember betting Tring, but you could be right, i've pretty much disowned my former self pre "conversion". But that's the thing, I genuinely don't hold onto things for long, i've probably 'jousted' with everyone at one time or another, I just don't give it a passing thought to it. I guess that's why I find it odd when others do.

Ho hum, again, while it's for me to learn like or lump, it's certainly a view the god given right right of the holder to hold it, that is fully respected.

But even if you did feel certain individual fans are tossers, is not fan representation better than private property developer landlord ownership, worse still one who has displayed no moral or ethical values infact has positively tried to conceal everything?.

Conversion is often a long overdue personal journey .... not a welcome home party. History is always there, well, unless one was unfortunate enough to live in Cambodia a while back.

As for Argyle ownership, in view of the people involved, personally I'm not sure whether fan ownership or a constrained private property owner would be best. There are plenty of examples throughout history where people power has been a disaster.

I have heard nothing from Pasoti Trust on what they would see as acceptable building in the park, and it doesn't appear to me that they are making much noise about the way the previous owners are in this pre pack up to their necks. Would they go along with this whole pre pack if they were able to get the football gig under Heaney? .... I suspect they would, and in fact, their letter to Guilfoyle today would confirm that.

X Isle wrote:

I honestly can't remember betting Tring, but you could be right, i've pretty much disowned my former self pre "conversion". But that's the thing, I genuinely don't hold onto things for long, i've probably 'jousted' with everyone at one time or another, I just don't give it a passing thought to it. I guess that's why I find it odd when others do.

Ho hum, again, while it's for me to learn like or lump, it's certainly a view the god given right right of the holder to hold it, that is fully respected.

But even if you did feel certain individual fans are tossers, is not fan representation better than private property developer landlord ownership, worse still one who has displayed no moral or ethical values infact has positively tried to conceal everything?.

Between a rock and a hard place isn't it ? The Exeter Trust model seems to work ok and I daresay ours could be much bigger. Eventually, investors would want to buy in and that would be ok with me if they had the football at heart and the necessary available capital to ignite further the potential fanbase and be able to keep good players and coaches.
I just knew what was coming with Stapes and his chums and this present fiasco is a complete turn off.

With regard grudges and Newell. If you were in my position and were denied a voice on the club's largest forum, you too might have reacted similarly.
To simply walk away and be a good boy is not my style and I don't think it would be yours.