9/11

11 years today since the tragic event where 3000 people lost their lives. One of the most surreal events that has happened in my lifetime.

I had arrived in LA the day before, woke up hungover and couldn't believe the footage on TV. I saw the South Tower collapse and had to get to a phone as I hadn't contacted my parents since I landed (the phone in the place I was staying was disconnected). Spoke to my mum as the north tower collapsed.

It's absolutely right that we should remember the events of that awful day. However, we should also remember the thousands of Iraqi and Afghan civilians who lost their lives in the wake of the American invasion of their countries in response to 9/11. They were innocent victims too, their lives were of equal value to the lives lost in New York and Washington.

We were in New York 10 months before it happened. I've got camcorder footage of us on the interior observation deck of (I think) the South tower.

It's nuts looking at that now. There are massive skyscrapers all around the World Trade Centre, but when you are at the top looking down on them, they look tiny. Unreal.

Beyond comprehension that a building of that magnitude could be brought down.

Andy_Symons wrote:

It's absolutely right that we should remember the events of that awful day. However, we should also remember the thousands of Iraqi and Afghan civilians who lost their lives in the wake of the American invasion of their countries in response to 9/11. They were innocent victims too, their lives were of equal value to the lives lost in New York and Washington.

What's your point ? They can't be trusted none if them. I won't be thinking of them today that's for sure.

Saltash green wrote:

Andy_Symons wrote:

It's absolutely right that we should remember the events of that awful day. However, we should also remember the thousands of Iraqi and Afghan civilians who lost their lives in the wake of the American invasion of their countries in response to 9/11. They were innocent victims too, their lives were of equal value to the lives lost in New York and Washington.

What's your point ? They can't be trusted none if them. I won't be thinking of them today that's for sure.

I can't say I'm over bothered either, but that's a helluva sweeping statement.

Do you reckon all Muslims are terrorists as well?

Greenjock wrote:

Saltash green wrote:

Andy_Symons wrote:

It's absolutely right that we should remember the events of that awful day. However, we should also remember the thousands of Iraqi and Afghan civilians who lost their lives in the wake of the American invasion of their countries in response to 9/11. They were innocent victims too, their lives were of equal value to the lives lost in New York and Washington.

What's your point ? They can't be trusted none if them. I won't be thinking of them today that's for sure.

I can't say I'm over bothered either, but that's a helluva sweeping statement.

Do you reckon all Muslims are terrorists as well?

No of course i don't, but i wouldn't be comfortable sat next to one on a plane

Saltash green wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Saltash green wrote:

Andy_Symons wrote:

It's absolutely right that we should remember the events of that awful day. However, we should also remember the thousands of Iraqi and Afghan civilians who lost their lives in the wake of the American invasion of their countries in response to 9/11. They were innocent victims too, their lives were of equal value to the lives lost in New York and Washington.

What's your point ? They can't be trusted none if them. I won't be thinking of them today that's for sure.

I can't say I'm over bothered either, but that's a helluva sweeping statement.

Do you reckon all Muslims are terrorists as well?

No of course i don't, but i wouldn't be comfortable sat next to one on a plane

Prat.

Andy was making the absolute common sense point that it wasn't just the people in those tower blocks who have been killed as a result of this "war". Why should a white life in New York be worth anymore than a goat herders family in Helmand? They were all innocent. The people who blew up those towers and then subsequently sent us to war to avenge Daddy's inability to kill Sadam the first time around are the guilty ones here.

Mind you didn't I see some time ago Dane that you've got previous on Twitter for being associated with people who hold unsavoury views on the equality of life.

What about all the young men and women sent from this country to fight a stupid war? Seeing teenagers of any race or religion coming home in body bags makes me feel real sad.

I cant be held responsible for the views of people i know. I think the person you are on about is actually on a deployment ( royal navy ) down chasing pirates in africa.

Im sorry call me what you like , I just wont be thinking of any iraq's or afgans today, tomorrow or ever, those particular country s have cause no end of pain and suffering to 100's of familys up and down this country,

really couldnt give a flying feck




p.s nothing to do with '' white life in new york'' maybe you should try and not be so ignorant and understand that people from country's all over world died that day, so dont start trying to turn this into a while and black thing, if so i put to you that you are the racist

Saltash green wrote:

Greenjock wrote:

Saltash green wrote:

Andy_Symons wrote:

It's absolutely right that we should remember the events of that awful day. However, we should also remember the thousands of Iraqi and Afghan civilians who lost their lives in the wake of the American invasion of their countries in response to 9/11. They were innocent victims too, their lives were of equal value to the lives lost in New York and Washington.

What's your point ? They can't be trusted none if them. I won't be thinking of them today that's for sure.

I can't say I'm over bothered either, but that's a helluva sweeping statement.

Do you reckon all Muslims are terrorists as well?

No of course i don't, but i wouldn't be comfortable sat next to one on a plane

'specially if they were sweating like a pig, mumbling incoherently to themself, and fumbling desperately inside their kaftan eh!

I regularly fly with Qatar connecting through Doha and do find it disconcerting the number of passengers praying and reading the Quran in unison. I would be equally disconcerted if another group were reading the bible and praying out loud in concert though.

The thing that does amuse me though is the girlies trying to scoff their airline meals (excellent stuff from Qatar) through their birkas in a bit of turbulence.

Charlie Wood wrote:

I regularly fly with Qatar connecting through Doha and do find it disconcerting the number of passengers praying and reading the Quran in unison. I would be equally disconcerted if another group were reading the bible and praying out loud in concert though.

The thing that does amuse me though is the girlies trying to scoff their airline meals (excellent stuff from Qatar) through their birkas in a bit of turbulence.

thats the scary part, fundamentalist christians.

i wish i never felt like that, but i do. need some soul searching to get that out of my psyche.

im half way there when i say people are people, and oil is oil and opium is opium

9/11 is now part of history for me. It might 'feel like yesterday', and I get that it's very sad, etc, but I'm not going to mourn it forever, just like I'm not that fussed any more about those who died in the Boer War, War of the Roses, etc.

To condemn a whole group of people because of their beliefs is crazy. And that goes for Muslims, Christians, Exeter supporters etc. To condemn a whole group of people because of the actions of a tiny minority is equally crazy.

There were thousands - maybe millions - of victims on that day. Some of them were in the Towers and some of them in distant countries. Some of those victims were victims before the Towers were targeted and some since then. All of the men, women & children who have been killed or maimed or have lost family or friends should have our sympathies.

Charlie Wood wrote:

The thing that does amuse me though is the girlies trying to scoff their airline meals (excellent stuff from Qatar) through their birkas in a bit of turbulence.

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another anniversary looms, the spectre of world war 3 does too it seems......

Elias wrote:

another anniversary looms, the spectre of world war 3 does too it seems......

Hope so. Should be fun. Can't wait.

hairy j wrote:

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Tasteless..............and i'm not talking about the food.

hairy j wrote:

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What a tw@t, I'm sorry. I find that personally offensive seeing as I knew two people who sadly perished on that dreadful day. Are you after another reaction? Well, there you go. You got one from me.

I didn't do it, I'm not that good at photoshop. Chill out white knight of the internet.

hairy j wrote:

I didn't do it. I'm not that good at photoshop...

Clueless.

It's from The Onion
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It's a sharp satire on American consumer culture and their perverse sense of history although that might be a little too subtle for some people.

back in the early 90s during a visit to New York I went to the top of the South tower WTC - wanted to go onto the open viewing platform but due to high winds it was closed that day. I hate heights and it shat me up just looking out of the window. I still can't watch the footage of those people actually hanging out of the windows to escape the fire and smoke on 9/11. And then jumping. Unimaginable horror.

hairy j wrote:

I didn't do it, I'm not that good at photoshop. Chill out white knight of the internet.

I don't need to chill out and I'm certainly no 'white knight' as you condescendingly (again) put it - but please, don't blame your pig sh*t ignorance on someone else. YOU chose to post it on here. What did you expect? wall-to-wall sycophantic admiration of your oh-so-funny post? Prick.

Must go. I have several families in the US to speak to as I do on every anniversary of 9/11.