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Would really like to know who they are.
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Why? We have a manager.

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A shit start to next season and we will be kicking ourselves over this missed opportunity.
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Not if we don't know who they are.

Anyway Fletcher is apparently holding out for Bournemouth. I would imagine that Brent will only wait so long before taking his offer off the table. He's not a millionaire by chance. He's a very shrewd businessman.
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Id give him a week........ive never been so bored in my life watching the negative, binary football served up under Fletcher, effective in keeping us up? yes, the tactics to take us forward?...no thanks

Ill drive him to Bournemouth myself if necessary, obviously Bournemouth are trying to emulate another Eddie Howe, dont always work like that in football.
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According to JB, his brief was to keep us up. How he did that was dire to watch. Again according to JB CF's intended style of play is very different. He intends to play attractive football next season.

Time will tell. If Fletch doesn't sign, then Brent will find another manager. Simple when you put it like that isn't it?
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I would be amazed if Fletcher has what it takes to be a successful manager. I have never heard anyone sound so ponderous and lacking in anything constructive to say when interviewed . Maybe he's different with the players and turns into an incisive and articulate motivator but I doubt it.
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According to JB, his brief was to keep us up. How he did that was dire to watch. Again according to JB CF's intended style of play is very different. He intends to play attractive football next season.

So... Fletch decided to forgo his preferred playing style to keep us up - is that what we are being led to believe?

It also begs the question how much faith he has in playing 'attractive' football if he doesn't believe it can lead to positive results.


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If we bring in different players then we maybe able to play a different style, who knows but I would give him a chance and see.
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Rickler wrote:
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According to JB, his brief was to keep us up. How he did that was dire to watch. Again according to JB CF's intended style of play is very different. He intends to play attractive football next season.

So... Fletch decided to forgo his preferred playing style to keep us up - is that what we are being led to believe?

It also begs the question how much faith he has in playing 'attractive' football if he doesn't believe it can lead to positive results.



I think it's more likely that the likes of Purse and Wotton told Fletch that they'd stop the other beggars scoring many goals, so that Fletch could concentrate on the attack lol!
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Can leopards change their spots.Will we be singing "Its like watching Brazil".Very much doubt it.
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Very few teams play attractive footy in L2, let alone when they are at or near to the foot of the league!

We might win more next year but the footy will remain pretty shite. We are in league 2!

Oh and how many 1-0 wins did we get when Sturrock took us out of L2? 1-0 to the Argyle I seem to recall
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Can leopards change their spots.Will we be singing "Its like watching Brazil".Very much doubt it.

Exactly, give him till Tuesday then tell him where to go.

Leave the Fletcher loving to Forza Nerd and Pasoti
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Rickler wrote:
Cerbera wrote:
According to JB, his brief was to keep us up. How he did that was dire to watch. Again according to JB CF's intended style of play is very different. He intends to play attractive football next season.

So... Fletch decided to forgo his preferred playing style to keep us up - is that what we are being led to believe?

It also begs the question how much faith he has in playing 'attractive' football if he doesn't believe it can lead to positive results.



I actually agree with you. Fletcher showed no signs of any tactical nouse at all this season. As DTT posted, if only Bristol Rovers knew how to hang onto a 2 goal lead.......
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I bet the managers include:

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Kevin Nancekivell

Martin Rogers

Kevin Hodges

any more?
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Shilton and Megson?

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How do you define a 'senior' manager? Are we talking about Ron Atkinson! Obviously it's a manager who is a) out of work and b) desperate enough to pimp himself to a league 2 team who already have a manager. I doubt therefore that it is anyone with a particularly great track record.

An alternative hypothesis would be that if negotiations over Fletcher's new contract aren't going to Brent's liking, then maybe these 'senior managers' have suddenly been mentioned as a negotiation tool. Like someone else said, Brent didn't get to be millionaire by being a mug.
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Cerbera wrote:
Not if we don't know who they are.

Anyway Fletcher is apparently holding out for Bournemouth. I would imagine that Brent will only wait so long before taking his offer off the table. He's not a millionaire by chance. He's a very shrewd businessman.

Paul Groves was appointed Bournemouth manager on a permanent basis today:

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I think the only team i have seen play good consistant passing football is Rovers at home park, perhaps swindon. Shrewsbury were poor and Crawley weren't the best either, the rest seem utter crap also.

For what its worth, I think we tried playing some good football with the young team under peter reid, especially in pre season, we played some very sexy stuff against Shrewsbury at their place, then played it all on the ground against Millwall also, we did play passing football and it didn't work against the physical teams. Notice we only started getting the wins when we brought in tough physical players.

Its gonna be dirty, passing won't work in L2
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Ah well, that's that then. JB did mention at the freak meet that he'd had some approaches.
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Thought you played ok in the JPT, against us,good passing game on the ground.
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I think the only team i have seen play good consistant passing football is Rovers at home park, perhaps swindon. Shrewsbury were poor and Crawley weren't the best either, the rest seem utter crap also.

For what its worth, I think we tried playing some good football with the young team under peter reid, especially in pre season, we played some very sexy stuff against Shrewsbury at their place, then played it all on the ground against Millwall also, we did play passing football and it didn't work against the physical teams. Notice we only started getting the wins when we brought in tough physical players.

Its gonna be dirty, passing won't work in L2

Passing can and has worked in this or any other league.Luton were a very good passing side when they finished runners up to us in 2002 and so were Mansfield who went up vis the play offs.If you have players of the right quality,any system or style can be successful.
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If your priority as a supporter is getting out of this league then is it more important to get results or how you get them? If, and I know it won't happen, Argyle won every match 1 - 0 would supporters generally care in the end? My answer to the above two questions is no. I suspect many many other people would answer the same.

Would you rather Argyle play good attacking football? Would you rather Argyle play good attacking football and finish 10th. Yes to the first one but no to the second. I think it is unfair to judge Fletcher's style on this season where it was backs to the wall from day one. By the time he took over with no money to spend and being stuck with a lot of what he already had then the options if we were going to survive were limited. I do believe he did what he had to do and why would he not. Would he have wished it different. Of course he would so why not take his word on that.

Ok he doesn't sound good at interview. How does he sound on the training ground and in the dressingroom? I would rather he be good there than in front of a camera. It is unfair to say he won't change the style for next season because we have no idea yet. A comment above is right. There are few footballing sides in this league because it is the bottom league and the quality of player isn't there. Better to get out of it with another season watching crap than stay here and watch crap for eternity.
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Cerbera wrote:
Not if we don't know who they are.

Anyway Fletcher is apparently holding out for Bournemouth. I would imagine that Brent will only wait so long before taking his offer off the table. He's not a millionaire by chance. He's a very shrewd businessman.

Paul Groves was appointed Bournemouth manager on a permanent basis today:

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Thats that then,,, I fully expect Carl Fletcher to continue as Argyle manager forthwith....
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