Blackburn today

For all you knee jerking throwing your toys out of the pram types, we actually played very well today. Yes we should have won, we created several really good chances through free flowing pass and move football that cut right through their defence. But that performance was so much better than the last few weeks, certainly since Middlesboro. Bundu make a big difference, he was that extra man close to Hardie and Whittaker that provided the link between midfield and attack.

We were actually better when Blackburn had 11 on the pitch, apart from the first 10 mins, we were in total control and should have scored at least 3 in the first half. When they went down to 10 they sat a lot deeper, but even then we had chances to score at least 3 more.

So a disappointing result but a very good performance. we were better than Blackburn all over the pitch, and there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't stay up. Credit to Foster today for making the changes he did, which meant we were able to play on the front foot and create chances on both sides of the pitch.

Rotherham have gone, Wednesday lack quality and will go, Birmingham look in real trouble as do QPR. We are better than all of those.

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

For all you knee jerking throwing your toys out of the pram types, we actually played very well today. Yes we should have won, we created several really good chances through free flowing pass and move football that cut right through their defence. But that performance was so much better than the last few weeks, certainly since Middlesboro. Bundu make a big difference, he was that extra man close to Hardie and Whittaker that provided the link between midfield and attack.

We were actually better when Blackburn had 11 on the pitch, apart from the first 10 mins, we were in total control and should have scored at least 3 in the first half. When they went down to 10 they sat a lot deeper, but even then we had chances to score at least 3 more.

So a disappointing result but a very good performance. we were better than Blackburn all over the pitch, and there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't stay up. Credit to Foster today for making the changes he did, which meant we were able to play on the front foot and create chances on both sides of the pitch.

Rotherham have gone, Wednesday lack quality and will go, Birmingham look in real trouble as do QPR. We are better than all of those.

what was the score and how many points did we get? when we start winning more regularly and not solely relying on other teams failing then its acceptable to have the cocky pops at fans that dont see foster as anything more than a clown.

Foster out and Warnock in! Bleddy hell can’t take some of you seriously.

Graiser wrote:

Foster out and Warnock in! Bleddy hell can’t take some of you seriously.

Why not? Warnock has worked the championship relegation miracle at Rotherham and Huddersfield in the past few seasons. He wouldn't be my choice in the long term but short term certainly a possibility-remember Malcolm Allison coming in and saving us after an inexperienced rookie in Kelly had fecked things up? I doubt very much if it'll happen but if Argyle lose again against Preston then the knives will be out again. Let's hope they win.

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

For all you knee jerking throwing your toys out of the pram types, we actually played very well today. Yes we should have won, we created several really good chances through free flowing pass and move football that cut right through their defence. But that performance was so much better than the last few weeks, certainly since Middlesboro. Bundu make a big difference, he was that extra man close to Hardie and Whittaker that provided the link between midfield and attack.

We were actually better when Blackburn had 11 on the pitch, apart from the first 10 mins, we were in total control and should have scored at least 3 in the first half. When they went down to 10 they sat a lot deeper, but even then we had chances to score at least 3 more.

So a disappointing result but a very good performance. we were better than Blackburn all over the pitch, and there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't stay up. Credit to Foster today for making the changes he did, which meant we were able to play on the front foot and create chances on both sides of the pitch.

Rotherham have gone, Wednesday lack quality and will go, Birmingham look in real trouble as do QPR. We are better than all of those.

Has Smiffy been carrying out some sort of Svengali treatment on you Garry?

Greenskin wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Foster out and Warnock in! Bleddy hell can’t take some of you seriously.

Why not? Warnock has worked the championship relegation miracle at Rotherham and Huddersfield in the past few seasons. He wouldn't be my choice in the long term but short term certainly a possibility-remember Malcolm Allison coming in and saving us after an inexperienced rookie in Kelly had fecked things up? I doubt very much if it'll happen but if Argyle lose again against Preston then the knives will be out again. Let's hope they win.

Thought the timing of Warnock leaving Aberdeen was interesting.  I'd literally take anyone over foster.  Even if foster doesn't get the boot this season and by some miracle we do manage avoid the drop he needs to be gone at the end of the season.  Cannot possibly go into the 24/25 season with foster as head coach.

FOSTER OUT NOW!!!!!

Graiser wrote:

Foster out and Warnock in! Bleddy hell can’t take some of you seriously.

might as well go the whole hog and get clueless Carl back
If foster does go dewsnips gotta go as well someone’s got take responsibility for this shit show dewsnip can’t possibly stay on if foster goes otherwise nothing will change

Greenskin wrote:

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

For all you knee jerking throwing your toys out of the pram types, we actually played very well today. Yes we should have won, we created several really good chances through free flowing pass and move football that cut right through their defence. But that performance was so much better than the last few weeks, certainly since Middlesboro. Bundu make a big difference, he was that extra man close to Hardie and Whittaker that provided the link between midfield and attack.

We were actually better when Blackburn had 11 on the pitch, apart from the first 10 mins, we were in total control and should have scored at least 3 in the first half. When they went down to 10 they sat a lot deeper, but even then we had chances to score at least 3 more.

So a disappointing result but a very good performance. we were better than Blackburn all over the pitch, and there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't stay up. Credit to Foster today for making the changes he did, which meant we were able to play on the front foot and create chances on both sides of the pitch.

Rotherham have gone, Wednesday lack quality and will go, Birmingham look in real trouble as do QPR. We are better than all of those.

Has Smiffy been carrying out some sort of Svengali treatment on you Garry?

Not at all John just saying what I saw yesterday. We looked a decent side, and Foster deserves credit for the way the team played, as do the players. It's not his fault that Hardie and Mumba missed gilt edged chances.

Sometimes, a bit of balance is needed on here, we really are not as bad as some are saying. We're not top 6 by any means but we're a better side than the bottom 6.

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

For all you knee jerking throwing your toys out of the pram types, we actually played very well today. Yes we should have won, we created several really good chances through free flowing pass and move football that cut right through their defence. But that performance was so much better than the last few weeks, certainly since Middlesboro. Bundu make a big difference, he was that extra man close to Hardie and Whittaker that provided the link between midfield and attack.

We were actually better when Blackburn had 11 on the pitch, apart from the first 10 mins, we were in total control and should have scored at least 3 in the first half. When they went down to 10 they sat a lot deeper, but even then we had chances to score at least 3 more.

So a disappointing result but a very good performance. we were better than Blackburn all over the pitch, and there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't stay up. Credit to Foster today for making the changes he did, which meant we were able to play on the front foot and create chances on both sides of the pitch.

Rotherham have gone, Wednesday lack quality and will go, Birmingham look in real trouble as do QPR. We are better than all of those.

Has Smiffy been carrying out some sort of Svengali treatment on you Garry?

Not at all John just saying what I saw yesterday. We looked a decent side, and Foster deserves credit for the way the team played, as do the players. It's not his fault that Hardie and Mumba missed gilt edged chances.

Sometimes, a bit of balance is needed on here, we really are not as bad as some are saying. We're not top 6 by any means but we're a better side than the bottom 6.

To be fair to Foster, away performances have been a bit more productive since he took over-can't argue that the two wins have been an improvement on what went before and the displays at Middlesbrough and Blackburn were indeed very good. It was the insipid home matches against Leeds, WBA and Ipswich which were really disturbing. For sure they are better sides than Argyle but teams such as Huddersfield, QPR and Cardiff have shown since that it's possible to get results against them with a bit of aggression and belief, qualities that Argyle dismally failed to show in those matches. That drop off in home form needs to be addressed very quickly, starting against PNE next week because Argyle historically are not strong away from home in this division and there is no certainty that the remaining matches will yield wins. It would be a horrible situation to need to get points from the last two games of the season at Stoke and Millwall-home wins are needed and hopefully the approach and attitude will be adjusted to that end.

RegGreen wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Foster out and Warnock in! Bleddy hell can’t take some of you seriously.

might as well go the whole hog and get clueless Carl back
If foster does go dewsnips gotta go as well someone’s got take responsibility for this shit show  dewsnip can’t possibly stay on if foster goes otherwise nothing will change

i thought we already did bring back clueless carl seeing how we played and results under him with one or two flashes of normal propping up.

Greenskin wrote:

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

For all you knee jerking throwing your toys out of the pram types, we actually played very well today. Yes we should have won, we created several really good chances through free flowing pass and move football that cut right through their defence. But that performance was so much better than the last few weeks, certainly since Middlesboro. Bundu make a big difference, he was that extra man close to Hardie and Whittaker that provided the link between midfield and attack.

We were actually better when Blackburn had 11 on the pitch, apart from the first 10 mins, we were in total control and should have scored at least 3 in the first half. When they went down to 10 they sat a lot deeper, but even then we had chances to score at least 3 more.

So a disappointing result but a very good performance. we were better than Blackburn all over the pitch, and there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't stay up. Credit to Foster today for making the changes he did, which meant we were able to play on the front foot and create chances on both sides of the pitch.

Rotherham have gone, Wednesday lack quality and will go, Birmingham look in real trouble as do QPR. We are better than all of those.

Has Smiffy been carrying out some sort of Svengali treatment on you Garry?

Not at all John just saying what I saw yesterday. We looked a decent side, and Foster deserves credit for the way the team played, as do the players. It's not his fault that Hardie and Mumba missed gilt edged chances.

Sometimes, a bit of balance is needed on here, we really are not as bad as some are saying. We're not top 6 by any means but we're a better side than the bottom 6.

To be fair to Foster, away performances have been a bit more productive since he took over-can't argue that the two wins have been an improvement on what went before and the displays at Middlesbrough and Blackburn were indeed very good. It was the insipid home matches against Leeds, WBA and Ipswich which were really disturbing. For sure they are better sides than Argyle but teams such as Huddersfield, QPR and Cardiff have shown since that it's possible to get results against them with a bit of aggression and belief, qualities that Argyle dismally failed to show in those matches. That drop off in home form needs to be addressed very quickly, starting against PNE next week because Argyle historically are not strong away from home in this division and there is no certainty that the remaining matches will yield wins. It would be a horrible situation to need to get points from the last two games of the season at Stoke and Millwall-home wins are needed and hopefully the approach and attitude will be adjusted to that end.

Away performances have been better than with the snake, however there’s no doubt some of our performances have been dire but some have been very good, yesterday and away to Middlesboro are 2 examples, as we continually hear anybody can beat anybody in this league. Middlesboro beat Leicester away we beat Middlesboro away, QPR beat Leicester away, Middlesboro beat QPR away.
Taking over a club mid season can’t be easy look at the snake and the conquering hero at Aberdeen who while listening to his interview yesterday said he had been talking to the Aberdeen hierarchy for a few weeks about leaving.
Bit of patience required I think

I don't think Hallet will be swayed by Fan discontent, he is here for the long haul.

seadog wrote:

I don't think Hallet will be swayed by Fan discontent, he is here for the long haul.

what even if we get relegated…well someone’s gunna have to explain or take responsibility for it because we go down we won’t be coming back up anytime soon try explaining that to the fans Mr Hallett

As from next season the chasm between the Championship and L1 will be huge. For Argo, promotion back to this level from L1 may be as unlikely as winning promotion from the Championship to the Premier League. Only monied clubs need apply.

Freathy wrote:

As from next season the chasm between the Championship and L1 will be huge.  For Argo, promotion back to this level from L1 may be as unlikely as winning promotion from the Championship to the Premier League.  Only monied clubs need apply.

yo yoing between the championship and league one is more than likely going to be our future for the time being relegations and promtions will bring its highs and lows for the fanbase. I dont see that changing unless someone or a group buys into or takes over the club and invest serious cash that would enable us to break that cycle and start looking up the table.

with that said if the club are relegated this season and i hope we are not and they keep foster in charge regardless we wont be coming back up anytime soon as i dont trust this guy or dewsnip to build a team that's capable of bouncing straight back and there will be alot of money available from transfer if we go down to fund a rebuild so it needs to be done right and money not wasted (Whittaker, Cooper, Hardie, Randall and Mumba possibly Gibson too will more than likely be sold given they can compete at this level and will want to stay there)

So Angry, basically you're saying we've already got half a decent Championship team and when we stay up, it's just a case of selling one of them to finance the purchase of the rest of the team.

Grovehill wrote:

So Angry, basically you're saying we've already got half a decent Championship team and when we stay up, it's just a case of selling one of them to finance the purchase of the rest of the team.

nope,

if we stay up, It will take more than one being sold to buy the rest of players needed to strengthen the squad no matter who it is. Forget any huge offer for copper his knees have ended that so whatever is offered for him with have the decimal point moved left one or two places of the fee. I wouldnt trust any summer recruitment being headed up by foster/dewsnip even if the dickinsom chap head of recruitment finds the next ronaldo. they would ruin him

If we get relegated then I am sure he will reassess.

RegGreen wrote:

seadog wrote:

I don't think Hallet will be swayed by Fan discontent, he is here for the long haul.

what even if we get relegated…well someone’s gunna have to explain or take responsibility for it because we go down we won’t be coming back up anytime soon try explaining that to the fans Mr Hallett

Oh FFS we won’t be relegated

Graiser wrote:

Oh FFS we won’t be relegated

I like to think we won’t get relegated either …but how close it is and what with our home form now on the slide plus can’t win away in a month of Sundays we’re one dodgie result from being slap bang in the mix of it if our form don’t improve a bit sharpest plus a manager with no championship experience let alone a relegation scrap/battle /dogfight in his career so I wouldn’t say it’s a for gone conclusion we’re gunna stay up just yet

There's no way this team will even get to 50 points with only 9 games left.  Can see it going right to the wire with us needing a result against play-offs chasing Hull on 4 May to stay up.

RegGreen wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Oh FFS we won’t be relegated

I like to think we won’t get relegated either …but how close it is and what with our home form now on the slide plus can’t win away in a month of Sundays we’re one dodgie result from being slap bang in the mix of it if our form don’t improve a bit sharpest plus a manager with no championship experience let alone a relegation scrap/battle /dogfight in his career so I wouldn’t say it’s a for gone conclusion we’re gunna stay up just yet

its going to go down to the wire i feel. We should stay up just if we can nick a few wins and not loose all the remaining away games. Its going to be close. I agree with you given how we are playing and the results we have been getting its not a gurantee. Foster really has done a shit job in charge of a team that had alot of momentum and morale behind them.