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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 8:51 pm

I never thought he would keep us up so I'll hold my hands up and say thanks.

I still don't want him to stay on as manager. We're still dire. A coaching role behind an experienced manager as reward, but cheerio deehan, and Brent and co please ignore pasoti and appoint a new management team at the end of the season.

If anyone thinks that's harsh, what about huddersfield and lee Clark? Or megson and Wednesday? They were considered failures. Fletcher might at best lead us to 19th in league 2 this season. Sentiment needs to go out of the window.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 8:59 pm

I don't think they would 'love' to get rid as he is more or less part of the furniture there. Fletchers playing days are over, so Brent is going to offer him a 1 year new contract on vastly lower terms and he get told to take it or leave it. The total lack of interest in his services elsewhere will prompt to take it, cue another year of witless shit, we'll get reminded how lucky we are as the crowds drift below 5k.

I suppose if as expected he delivers safety, he deserves the chance to take the club forward, but that means playoffs at least. Not drifting around 12th place wondering if we'll beat morecambe.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 9:18 pm

Bogsider wrote:
I don't think they would 'love' to get rid as he is more or less part of the furniture there. Fletchers playing days are over, so Brent is going to offer him a 1 year new contract on vastly lower terms and he get told to take it or leave it. The total lack of interest in his services elsewhere will prompt to take it, cue another year of witless shit, we'll get reminded how lucky we are as the crowds drift below 5k.

I suppose if as expected he delivers safety, he deserves the chance to take the club forward, but that means playoffs at least. Not drifting around 12th place wondering if we'll beat morecambe.

Exactly, that's why i like ATD, a small island of sanity in a sea of Aviva madness.
Over on Pasoti they are all hailing Fletcher as a genius and the man to take us forward just because we scraped enough shit results together to stay up.Heart rules head once again over on our beloved other website, nool and ghoul leading the charge as per usual.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 11:37 pm

punchdrunk wrote:
Bogsider wrote:
I don't think they would 'love' to get rid as he is more or less part of the furniture there. Fletchers playing days are over, so Brent is going to offer him a 1 year new contract on vastly lower terms and he get told to take it or leave it. The total lack of interest in his services elsewhere will prompt to take it, cue another year of witless shit, we'll get reminded how lucky we are as the crowds drift below 5k.

I suppose if as expected he delivers safety, he deserves the chance to take the club forward, but that means playoffs at least. Not drifting around 12th place wondering if we'll beat morecambe.

Exactly, that's why i like ATD, a small island of sanity in a sea of Aviva madness.
Over on Pasoti they are all hailing Fletcher as a genius and the man to take us forward just because we scraped enough shit results together to stay up.Heart rules head once again over on our beloved other website, nool and ghoul leading the charge as per usual.

Positivity over reality rules on the farm.
Midtable mediocrity fare for us next season, all hail Nool, Ghoul, Jonah and the Flag! jocolor

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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyMon Apr 09, 2012 11:46 pm

Arch Stanton wrote:
punchdrunk wrote:
Bogsider wrote:
I don't think they would 'love' to get rid as he is more or less part of the furniture there. Fletchers playing days are over, so Brent is going to offer him a 1 year new contract on vastly lower terms and he get told to take it or leave it. The total lack of interest in his services elsewhere will prompt to take it, cue another year of witless shit, we'll get reminded how lucky we are as the crowds drift below 5k.

I suppose if as expected he delivers safety, he deserves the chance to take the club forward, but that means playoffs at least. Not drifting around 12th place wondering if we'll beat morecambe.

Exactly, that's why i like ATD, a small island of sanity in a sea of Aviva madness.
Over on Pasoti they are all hailing Fletcher as a genius and the man to take us forward just because we scraped enough shit results together to stay up.Heart rules head once again over on our beloved other website, nool and ghoul leading the charge as per usual.

Positivity over reality rules on the farm.
Midtable mediocrity fare for us next season, all hail Nool, Ghoul, Jonah and the Flag! jocolor


Bit of stability might be nice though?
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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 12:03 am

Get rid and end of an awful period in Argyle's history. Not all his fault but as posters have said he will always be known for being captain during two relegations and manager of a possible third. I will only believe that we are safe when the maths saya we are. I would like to see Lee Clark but not Megson.

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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 9:36 am

Was talking to a guy next to me in the Devonport yesterday,and I said right now we should take off Feeney and "get the big man on" (Steve Fletcher) and at that exact moment Fletcher made the swap.So either I am management material or Carl Fletcher is learning and getting better in the tactical reading of a game.Don't think Fletch should be sacked,but believe we have a reasonably good team at league 2 level,but are constantly underperforming and we should be consistently playing better.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 10:09 am

Block4Green wrote:
Arch Stanton wrote:
punchdrunk wrote:
Bogsider wrote:
I don't think they would 'love' to get rid as he is more or less part of the furniture there. Fletchers playing days are over, so Brent is going to offer him a 1 year new contract on vastly lower terms and he get told to take it or leave it. The total lack of interest in his services elsewhere will prompt to take it, cue another year of witless shit, we'll get reminded how lucky we are as the crowds drift below 5k.

I suppose if as expected he delivers safety, he deserves the chance to take the club forward, but that means playoffs at least. Not drifting around 12th place wondering if we'll beat morecambe.

Exactly, that's why i like ATD, a small island of sanity in a sea of Aviva madness.
Over on Pasoti they are all hailing Fletcher as a genius and the man to take us forward just because we scraped enough shit results together to stay up.Heart rules head once again over on our beloved other website, nool and ghoul leading the charge as per usual.

Positivity over reality rules on the farm.
Midtable mediocrity fare for us next season, all hail Nool, Ghoul, Jonah and the Flag! jocolor


Bit of stability might be nice though?

No.Mr Brent has stated that Argyle should be challenging for promotion next season and that is absolutely correct,no matter who is manager.Stability usually equates to stagnation and Argyle can't hang around in this graveyard division for too long.I'm inclined to give Fletcher a chance with a proper pre season and a reasonable budget but if he doesn't get us up next year,then it would be time for a change.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 10:15 am

Each to his own I suppose, but I despair of those who think CF is deserving of a job just because our safety seems assured. I have watched match after match with no discernable game plan or tactics excercised and no response (other than last ditch desperate defending) when the opposing manager poses new challanges. Now, I understand that the footballing talents of our squad are somewhat limited but they are surely at a level of most of the opposition in this rubbish league and that, to my mind, means the difference comes from the off field preparation by the manager and his coaching staff.

On field it has been (another) truly depressing season, now that JB has provided a certain stability to the club it is imperative that substantial progress is made on the pitch next season. I just can't see that CF has the talents to make that happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 6:20 pm

We are back to the,do we need an experienced manager or give a new young man a chance?.Debate-been there before have'nt we?
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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyTue Apr 10, 2012 7:28 pm

Errrrrrrrm y'know I fink errrrrrrm like y'know, we should get a new manager.

If Fletch is retained[ and he surely will be]the chances of us being promoted are remote.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 11, 2012 7:41 am

There must be a "how to do an interview course" that Fletcher could be sent on in the summer........because I'm expecting him to still be manager next season.

He will have to do better...because he wont have some of the more able loanees next term.

Some of the better players might be tempted away as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 11, 2012 9:48 am

I have the perfect solution, ask Fletch to apply for the managers job in the summer, also invite other candidates/advertise the position and hire the best man to take us forward, the only problem I can see is that paying off the staff and paying a proper experienced manager might be beyond our means. I fear for our attendances if we only manage to achieve the mid table mediocrity that Cobi seems to hanker for. We need something to inspire, unite (for this single reason Fletch should go, simply because a large proportion of fans don't believe in him) and galvanise the crowds at HP, Brent give us something to believe in please.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 11, 2012 9:54 am

Do we know if Fletcher has the right coaching badges? If not, is he even in the process of getting them? Same applies to Larrieu I suppose

Me personally, I would keep. The potential is there in my eyes - but its a question of patience. And that is something in my eyes a lot of the fanbase lack given the past 4 years of continual dross
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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 11, 2012 5:10 pm

In fairness to Cobi I don't think he hankers after midtable mediocraty at all. Like everyone else he would prefer to be up there knocking on the door playing good football at the same time. What I think he is saying is that one season of not being at the entrance to the trapdoor would at least be nice which it would. Doesn't mean I don't want to be promoted either. I have had a belly full of relegation woes and bum nerve squeaking this term also. Just to be able to go watch my team without all that would seem a pleasant alternative even if we weren't runaway leaders. I start every season with expectations of greatness as do most supporters of most clubs except Freathy of course.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Fletcher be sacked?   Should Fletcher be sacked? - Page 2 EmptyWed Apr 11, 2012 6:06 pm

Just starting last season was a bonus........it was down hill for Peter Reid from that moment on......until Ridsdale saved him from the misery.
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