Argyle v Palace

Players who line up to face Plymouth in the Carabao Cup second round will need to prove they are deserving of the opportunity, Roy Hodgson has confirmed.

Crystal Palace travel to Devon on Tuesday (29th August) evening to take on the Pilgrims at Home Park, over 13 years since the two teams last met in the Championship.

And whilst Plymouth continue to ply their trade in the second tier and Palace in the Premier League, Hodgson is not taking the threat the opposition pose lightly.

Discussing his team selection process further for the cup match, Hodgson explained: “There’s a balance we have to sort out.

“It’s the usual balancing act: we don’t want to send a reserve team down there and get beaten by a very good Plymouth side, because we know how good they are. If we’re going to get a result down there then we’re going to have to play a good team.

“It’ll presumably be some sort of balancing act where we don’t jettison anyone we think is a first-team player from the last three games just to give [a chance to] someone who hasn’t had a kick of a ball yet – you’ll have to deserve it.

“You’ll have to deserve a kick of the ball and you’ll have to deserve a place in the team in place of anyone that I decide to leave out.”

Tuesday will mark the fourth occasion Palace and Plymouth have met in Cup competitions, the last time being in the Carabao Cup in September 2002, when Darren Powell and Andrew Johnson were on the scoresheet in a 2-1 win for the Eagles at Selhurst Park after extra-time.

That season, Palace went on to reach the League Cup quarter-finals, a finish they have only bettered once since (reaching the semi-finals in 2011/12).

With the talent at his disposal, therefore, Hodgson is targeting an improvement on last season’s third-round exit and hopes for an extended cup run.

The manager admitted: “At Palace, in all the time I’ve been here, we haven’t placed too much focus on cup games. Certainly we would like to give the Carabao Cup a run for its money.

“It certainly won’t be like it’s been on certain occasions during my time at the club, where surviving in the Premier League has been so far and away the only thing we can put our minds to that we’ve virtually rested anyone who might be needed for the next game.

“Those aspects will feature in my thinking, but what my thinking is, at the moment, I’m afraid only I know!”

Former Plymouth Argyle striker Niall Ennis set to miss out on Home Park return

Ennis joined Blackburn Rovers from the Pilgrims in the summer but has an injury which is expected to keep him out of the fixture between the clubs this Saturday

The 24-year-old striker was ruled out of Rovers' 1-0 win away to Watford in the Championship by a knee injury which is set to keep him out for a couple of weeks.

This one could be an opportunity against clearly very good opposition to prepare for Saturday's stern test.  Think Schuey will mix it up a bit though and give some development players a run out like against Leyton Orient.  Roy will obviously start mostly development players and then maybe bring some big guns on later if needed.  Think we'll give a good account of ourselves but Palace's available quality will prove a bit too much.  Don't think it will go to pens.

Argo 2-3 Palace

Freathy wrote:

This one could be an opportunity against clearly very good opposition to prepare for Saturday's stern test.  Think Schuey will mix it up a bit though and give some development players a run out like against Leyton Orient.  Roy will obviously start mostly development players and then maybe bring some big guns on later if needed.  Think we'll give a good account of ourselves but Palace's available quality will prove a bit too much.  Don't think it will go to pens.

Argo 2-3 Palace

he has nothing to lose by giving some players who havent featured as much some game time tonight. We arent expected to win this game palace are a good tactical side they probably will do the same as mentioned with their team but they have the depth to do that and still go through tonight they wont want to slip up here. We got blackburn on saturday we should be more concerned on stopping the last minute winners and creating more goals for that game.

I am going for a 2-1 win to Argyle.

Hopefully it will be a good game, with plenty of thrills.

1-1

Palace on pens

Argyle 1 Palace reserves 4

Not sure about this, high scoring draw maybe and Burton saves a couple of penalties

Yeah I expect Shoe E to mix it up with a few bench warmers tonight hopefully they can make good impression for them self’s and give Shoe E a dilemma be it a good dilemma to have picking the side for Saturdays game cos let’s have it right we could do without this competition tbh and concentrate of staying in the championship…..by the way where’s that pleggy fella gone his he injured or just out of favour the way the defence have been giving last minute goals away losing concentration maybe it’s his chance to try and grab a place in the defence and sure it up a bit ..cos I liked the look of him pre season

First half v mostly Palace stiffs Argo were in full control and deserved the 2-0 lead just after the break. Then bring on some Premier League power and pace and Argo go to complete rat shit defensively. In the end we were lucky it was only 2-4

said it elsewhere but to put it where it should be on here

this new tactic doesnt work for us defensively and schuey needs to go back to what got us to the dance in the first place and play 3 at the back with the wing backs the 2 midfielders in the middle the wingers either side of the striker.

Everyone of the outfield players that started that game have put themselves in the frame for a start on Saturday.
We played some excellent stuff, mid second half showed the chasm between the championship and the premier, no shame in that defeat

Graiser wrote:

Everyone of the outfield players that started that game have put themselves in the frame for a start on Saturday.
We played some excellent stuff, mid second half showed the chasm between the championship and the premier, no shame in that defeat

The difference in class doesn't completely excuse the scale of the collapse in the second half. Hopefully there are not too many Matetas or Ezes in the Championship

Freathy wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Everyone of the outfield players that started that game have put themselves in the frame for a start on Saturday.
We played some excellent stuff, mid second half showed the chasm between the championship and the premier, no shame in that defeat

The difference in class doesn't completely excuse the scale of the collapse in the second half. Hopefully there are not too many Matetas or Ezes in the Championship

It does and there aren’t

Graiser is fine with argo conceding 4 goals in 20 minutes against a mediocre prem outfit, that's one of the reasons why we'll always be also rans in the football world, the apathetic janner, the bheys done us proud, etc etc.

Les Miserable wrote:

Graiser is fine with argo conceding 4 goals in 20 minutes against a mediocre prem outfit, that's one of the reasons why we'll always be also rans in the football world, the apathetic janner, the bheys done us proud, etc etc.

Where did i write I’m fine with it, course I’m disappointed with the loss but we did play well right up to those substitutions and that gulf in class done us.

What was everybody thinking prior to the game, that we were going to stuff them or what, what were we all expecting.

As soon as Palace made those changes Argyle had no chance. That is the gulf in difference between them and us. They are in the Prem and Argyle are still finding their feet in the Championship.

Argyle played well in the first half and rightly went in at half time 1 up. The second goal was a good one and we thought we could go on to win this. Sadly, Palace brought on some big guns and they ripped us apart.

Gutted to lose after going 2 up. Palace deserved it in the end and there is no denying that.

Now Argyle can concentrate on the league and hopefully three points Vs Blackburn.

VillageGreen wrote:

As soon as Palace made those changes Argyle had no chance. That is the gulf in difference between them and us. They are in the Prem and Argyle are still finding their feet in the Championship.

Argyle played well in the first half and rightly went in at half time 1 up. The second goal was a good one and we thought we could go on to win this. Sadly, Palace brought on some big guns and they ripped us apart.

Gutted to lose after going 2 up. Palace deserved it in the end and there is no denying that.

Now Argyle can concentrate on the league and hopefully three points Vs Blackburn.

Yes, the three players Hodgson brought on in the second half were Premier League regulars but the manner and scale of Argo's defensive collapse is a big concern.  Given the way we were dominating I don't think even Roy thought his changes would make quite the impact they did. Our changes were too late as the damage was done.  Last season we were playing not that great and winning, this season we are playing very well and losing.  Schuey needs to address this before Saturday and the international break before it becomes a major problem.

Freathy wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

As soon as Palace made those changes Argyle had no chance. That is the gulf in difference between them and us. They are in the Prem and Argyle are still finding their feet in the Championship.

Argyle played well in the first half and rightly went in at half time 1 up. The second goal was a good one and we thought we could go on to win this. Sadly, Palace brought on some big guns and they ripped us apart.

Gutted to lose after going 2 up. Palace deserved it in the end and there is no denying that.

Now Argyle can concentrate on the league and hopefully three points Vs Blackburn.

Yes, the three players Hodgson brought on in the second half were Premier League regulars but the manner and scale of Argo's defensive collapse is a big concern.  Given the way we were dominating I don't think even Roy thought his changes would make quite the impact they did. Our changes were too late as the damage was done.  Last season we were playing not that great and winning, this season we are playing very well and losing.  Schuey needs to address this before Saturday and the international break before it becomes a major problem.

tbh we was always gunna regret not getting a couple of decent centre backs in pre season and knowingly not addressing it

We made more changes to our starting lineup than Palace. That in itself is slightly bizarre, and is quite telling in that Shuey clearly wasn’t putting any sort of top priority on actually winning the tie.

That the squad players who started the game did so well, will give him a lot of food for thought prior to Saturday.

It’s alarming to fold like the pack of cards we were in the space of a few minutes, but on reflection, there was still a lot to take out of that game, as Woooooy concedes.

Every game so far this season has been an education for our players. Rather steep learning curves for some, and they need to learn fast.

Read today that Spurs are keen on Eze.

Czarcasm wrote:

We made more changes to our starting lineup than Palace. That in itself is slightly bizarre, and is quite telling in that Shuey clearly wasn’t putting any sort of top priority on actually winning the tie.

That the squad players who started the game did so well, will give him a lot of food for thought prior to Saturday.

It’s alarming to fold like the pack of cards we were in the space of a few minutes, but on reflection, there was still a lot to take out of that game, as Woooooy concedes.

Every game so far this season has been an education for our players. Rather steep learning curves for some, and they need to learn fast.

very true and i would to your last sentence

including the manager and his backroom team.