Ukraine

Graiser wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

Those Russian troops are a right brutal bunch so I have been reading about.

Yea they’re very brave brutal barstewards, murdering civilians, raping defenceless women and then murdering them, not so good against motivated troops though.

And the Ukrainians have been executing soldiers that have surrendered adding to the tit for tat that goes on in a war zone. Brutality breeds brutality.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Graiser wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

Those Russian troops are a right brutal bunch so I have been reading about.

Yea they’re very brave brutal barstewards, murdering civilians, raping defenceless women and then murdering them, not so good against motivated troops though.

And the Ukrainians have been executing soldiers that have surrendered adding to the tit for tat that goes on in a war zone. Brutality breeds brutality.

This sort of ugliness has happened in every war since wars were a thang. The difference between wars of the past and now is it's plastered all over social media and MSM and everyone jumps on their moral high-horse. It's war, it's ugly, it's brutal, it's the worst coming out in humans.

MSM jizzing their pants over a 'possible' yet no confirmation what-so-ever of a chemical attack by the Ruskies.

I would ask why would Putler gas his own troops? Is this a false flag by nations desperate for a ruck with Russia? It's all beginning to stink a bit.

Zelenskyy has took his begging bowl around the world desperately trying to drag us into a war,
So who benefits from using or accusing Russia of using chemical weapons.

Confirmations is key. WMD-gate springs to mind!

Nice to see the Russians lining up their "Ducks" into a nice row again so that the Ukranians can blast them to smithereens yet again.....how ever did the Russians win a war in the past.....oh of course you bomb the civilians....and then rape those that are left....male, female, children or babies.

No wonder the WW2 defeated Germans were desperate to surrender to the British or Americans and feared ever being found by the Russians as Germany collapsed.

POI wrote:

MSM jizzing their pants over a 'possible' yet no confirmation what-so-ever of a chemical attack by the Ruskies.

I would ask why would Putler gas his own troops? Is this a false flag by nations desperate for a ruck with Russia? It's all beginning to stink a bit.

Zelenskyy has took his begging bowl around the world desperately trying to drag us into a war,
So who benefits from using or accusing Russia of using chemical weapons.

Confirmations is key. WMD-gate springs to mind!

If it is proven that Russia did use chemical weapons, is that the point where NATO say enough is enough and become fully engaged in this conflict ?.

Many nations saying if this 'red line' has been crossed, 'all options are on the table'!

It's a cop out init! 'All options on the table' could mean anything they want it to mean. Prolly it'll be the usual condemning from afar, name calling and a few more sanctions.

As long as the red line doesn't involve calling up my two bheys to die in another pointless war I couldn't give a fook, easy saying enough is enough when it's not your genes on the line.

Earwegoagain wrote:

As long as the red line doesn't involve calling up my two bheys to die in another pointless war I couldn't give a fook, easy saying enough is enough when it's not your genes on the line.

Quite, Ears. The thought of my son, anyone's son being sent off to war would fill me with utter dread. Obvs I've never been in a war, nor do I ever wish to. The closest I got to the realisation of the madness of war was a visit to some of the war graves along the French coast, and equally haunting and sobering, was a visit to the French village of Oradour-sur-Glane, which still stands today, as a memorial, in the same state that it was levelled to on the 9th June 1944.

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In other news. Russia moves missiles towards Finland - oh great. This is just getting better by the day. The accusation of a Russian chemical weapons attack has about as much credibility as the accusation Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

Both are levers to escalate war - and it seems to be working.

With my limited engineering skills and binge watching of 'Back To The Future', I'm going to attempt to build a time machine. Anyone coming?

I'll come back with you, no point going into the future.

POI wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

As long as the red line doesn't involve calling up my two bheys to die in another pointless war I couldn't give a fook, easy saying enough is enough when it's not your genes on the line.

Quite, Ears. The thought of my son, anyone's son being sent off to war would fill me with utter dread. Obvs I've never been in a war, nor do I ever wish to. The closest I got to the realisation of the madness of war was a visit to  some of the war graves along the French coast, and equally haunting and sobering, was a visit to the French village of Oradour-sur-Glane, which still stands today, as a memorial, in the same state that it was levelled to on the 9th June 1944.  

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In other news. Russia moves missiles towards Finland - oh great. This is just getting better by the day. The accusation of a Russian chemical weapons attack has about as much credibility as the accusation Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

Both are levers to escalate war - and it seems to be working.

With my limited engineering skills and binge watching of 'Back To The Future', I'm going to attempt to build a time machine. Anyone coming?

Finland and Sweden should sign up to NATO asap and the border with Europe should be reinforced if we don't he will grab any non NATO country that he can.

Considering how it's all panning out, do I make plans for the future? or just take stock?

I see them Ruskies have told the UK that the two captured British lads are being taken care of.

VillageGreen wrote:

I see them Ruskies have told the UK that the two captured British lads are being taken care of.

leave to fight as a mercenary then they cease to be the uk's problem and i dont want to see the government pay another £300m for ungrateful hostages again like the iranian melt.

Questions raised over the health of Putrid

Not sure how it's going to affect him ordering hundreds of airstrikes on Donbas but we live in hope.

Earwegoagain wrote:

Not sure how it's going to affect him ordering hundreds of airstrikes on Donbas but we live in hope.

aslong as hes not launching nukes towards us thats all im concerned about.

Angry wrote:

Earwegoagain wrote:

Not sure how it's going to affect him ordering hundreds of airstrikes on Donbas but we live in hope.

aslong as hes not launching nukes towards us thats all im concerned about.

Hands across the sea.

Apparently, the Russians are willing to exchange the two British lads for pro-Kremlin politician Viktor Medvedchuk. Ukraine have him so whatever talks come from this should be worth a listen.

Russia now investigating a report that says SAS personnel were on Ukrainian soil and helping Ukrainian special forces with sabotage within the country.


Russia's main federal investigating authority says it will look at whether - according to a media report - the SAS has been sent in to "assist the Ukrainian special services in organising sabotage on the territory of Ukraine".

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The UK and the Prime Minister are public enemy number one to the Russian hierarchy at the moment. It is going to be interesting to see what they (Russia) will do about it.

VillageGreen wrote:

Russia now investigating a report that says SAS personnel were on Ukrainian soil and helping Ukrainian special forces with sabotage within the country.


Russia's main federal investigating authority says it will look at whether - according to a media report - the SAS has been sent in to "assist the Ukrainian special services in organising sabotage on the territory of Ukraine".

LINK


The UK and the Prime Minister are public enemy number one to the Russian hierarchy at the moment. It is going to be interesting to see what they (Russia) will do about it.

I’d be more surprised if the SAS weren’t in there.

They will do the same as Putin did when he got caught sending two hatchet men to poison people in Salisbury, fook all.

VillageGreen wrote:

Apparently, the Russians are willing to exchange the two British lads for pro-Kremlin politician Viktor Medvedchuk. Ukraine have him so whatever talks come from this should be worth a listen.

must be liked by the ukraine president as he tends to have those opposed to him killed

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VillageGreen wrote:

Russia now investigating a report that says SAS personnel were on Ukrainian soil and helping Ukrainian special forces with sabotage within the country.


Russia's main federal investigating authority says it will look at whether - according to a media report - the SAS has been sent in to "assist the Ukrainian special services in organising sabotage on the territory of Ukraine".

LINK

I’d be more surprised if the SAS weren’t in there.

The SAS and the SBS are supreme soldiers but their numbers are few should they find themselves in conflict with Russian armour or fighter aircraft. Also, Russia's Spetsnaz are also very capable soldiers and will doubtlessly be employed in the coming battles and in far greater numbers too. Good luck to our boys and the Ukrainians.

Putin again threatening to use deadly responses against the west.

"If someone intends to interfere in what is going on from the outside they must know that constitutes an unacceptable strategic threat to Russia''.

''They must know that our response to counter-strikes will be lightning-fast."

He also had words of caution for the West, saying its plans to "strangle us economically have failed" - adding that any countries attempting to interfere in the conflict would face "quick" retaliation''.

Call the feckers bluff, if he wants to launch strikes against the UK, the EU and the US he he's more bemused than I thought.