Carey and Lameiras new contracts

Assume negotiations are well advanced over their potential new contracts. Clearly Adams and the community twins wouldnt have just ignored the situation.......



Interesting little titbit about Freddie Ladapo who apparently is going to a London area based club this summer out of choice. The source was the player himself last Saturday night.... We'll see because he's certainly under contract for next season

Upside is we may actually get a decent whack for him for once. Personally would like to keep him because he's clearly improved hugely over any club he's been at before

Lameiras and Lapado will definitely be gone in the summer.  Carey very probably gone too.  Any money we get for Freddie is academic as of course none of it will reach the playing budget.  God knows what adams will replace them with.  What we do know is after the summer departures and arrivals Argo will again be rooted to the bottom of whatever division we're in next season until at least January.  Boycott and save your money for a better day when maybe Argo have a proper owner.

Lameiras will definitely be seen as hot property by more ambitious clubs than Halletts austerity Argo, Freddie I think may want to go, he seems somewhat frustrated by the team at the moment, Carey not so sure. He is obviously on a good enough whack to want to stay, and his age, periods of poor form and lack of goals may not be an attraction for others.
Either way the same formula will continue, lack of board investment, yes man manager happy to work with shit budget, Average players coming in after mass clear out, blah blah blah.

'Graham Carey is our God and we are his disciples', Plymouth Argyle fans delighted after win over Shrewsbury Town

Headline today in the daily rag, yes a great pen under pressure, but just highlights the lack of expectation and ambition. Carey/Derek Adams is this really the best we can do for the next few years?

harvetheslayer wrote:

Assume negotiations are well advanced over their potential new contracts. 

Do not Assume --it can make an Ass out of U and Me.

The mantra on new contracts is usually "Wait until we know where we will be next season"

Maybe the new talent spotter (advertised on Linkedin) will have a few wee gems on his wish list

if the club havent started talks with these 2 and others they want to keep for next season then they are destined to see aother top player walk away for free.

get carey and lamerias signed up to big deals they have more than earned them.

I hope they stay, but football is a funny old game and if they leave, then so be it. We thank them for the services they have provided and we move on.

i was under the impression that when Carey stayed on last time it was because Mrs Carey liked living here ?.

Grovehill wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

Assume negotiations are well advanced over their potential new contracts. 

Do not Assume --it can make an Ass out of U and Me.

The mantra on new contracts is usually "Wait until we know where we will be next season"

Maybe the new talent spotter (advertised on Linkedin) will have a few wee gems on his wish list

Yes I think you missed the Popcorn   

If we have any ambition , We need to scrap the Defence maybe keep Riley,ASB and Eddie,Get Freddie, Graham and Ruben tied down to long term deals and build a team around them.

Riley is shit he would be the first to go in the summer if i had my way.

Angry wrote:

Riley is shit he would be the first to go in the summer if i had my way.

Yep. Along with Ainsworth who is an utter waste of a wage.

Defensively as a whole unit though we’re still not great. That said, we’re not utterly diabolical now as we were a few months ago.

Get rid of the army of pen pushers, directors, the Brents, scrap the failed youth system and give the money to Adams ffs!

Jethro wrote:

If we have any ambition , We need to scrap the Defence maybe keep Riley,ASB and Eddie,Get Freddie, Graham and Ruben tied down to long term deals and build a team around them.

There is absolutely no sign of any long term planning or ambition to take the club to a different level in terms of footballing quality and success, now or over the last seven years.
A flawed mankover does not count as ambition!

TBH this current squad can win games in the division. They can even win several in a row.

As little upheaval as possible, with one or two high-end additions and some of the dead weights dropped.

Losing 10 players and replacing them with 10 unknowns means we'll start again from scratch in August.

Mock Cuncher wrote:

TBH this current squad can win games in the division. They can even win several in a row.

As little upheaval as possible, with one or two high-end additions and some of the dead weights dropped.

Losing 10 players and replacing them with 10 unknowns means we'll start again from scratch in August.

This, for me. This is not far off being a good side, but mugging the whole side off and rebuilding again is very likely to result in another bad start. What's that expression about the definition of insanity?

The defense needs work, the midfield and attack could do with one or two quality additions, and our better players need to be either signed up sharpish, or (and let's be honest, sometimes there really is no way to keep a player who has decided that the grass looks greener elsewhere) sold early in the summer and the money reinvested in quality new players.

So, 10 players out and 10 unknowns in it is then.

akagreengull wrote:

Jethro wrote:

If we have any ambition , We need to scrap the Defence maybe keep Riley,ASB and Eddie,Get Freddie, Graham and Ruben tied down to long term deals and build a team around them.

There is absolutely no sign of any long term planning or ambition to take the club to a different level in terms of footballing quality and success, now or over the last seven years.
A flawed mankover does not count as ambition!

that's the problem it will be the same upheaval and loss of half a season again,
But that's for another thread the slow starts to the season, we can't afford a 3rd season where it takes till after christmas for us to turn up.

We need to get rid of the chaff Moore,Static Caravan,ainsworth etc and try to build on things but it won't happen.

I'd like to be proven wrong.

Disappointing that with so many scoring chances we can only score twice....and one of those was a penalty....even though Ladapo has done quite well....we do need a quality striker.....we certainly have missed Carey's regular goals from last year and Taylor has only been given a few minutes here and there.

Keep
Carey
Lameriras
Songo'o
Edwards
Sarcevic
Fox
Taylor
Ladapo
ASB
Cooper,
Joel Grant If fit
Riley unless better can be found
Ness


Dump
Wootton
Moore
Dyson
Sawyer
Ainsworth
Caravan

not sure on Anderson just yet, if he's cheap offer him a year see how it goes after a preseason.

Least that would give us a decent base to start with but then

We have to Mould a new GK and Defence together and that wont be easy unless they all start together from day 1

un feckin believable. Why must we continue to put up with this shit board and their lack of ambition for the football side of things.

A player like Lamerias and Carey too should not be leaving us on a free. How many top players must we lose to other teams in the close season cause we dont have ambition beyond year by year. Or having said that if we have wind a player wants to leave in the summer we sell them in january and get as much as poss for them.

sack the board sell the club.

Jethro wrote:

Keep
Carey
Lameriras
Songo'o
Edwards
Sarcevic
Fox
Taylor
Ladapo
ASB
Cooper,
Joel Grant If fit
Riley unless better can be found
Ness


Dump
Wootton
Moore
Dyson
Sawyer
Ainsworth
Caravan

not sure on Anderson just yet, if he's cheap offer him a year see how it goes after a preseason.

Least that would  give us a decent base to start with but then

We have to Mould a new GK and Defence together and that wont be easy unless they all start together from day 1

what do you see in Riley that many dont Jethro out of interest?

Angry wrote:

Jethro wrote:

Keep
Carey
Lameriras
Songo'o
Edwards
Sarcevic
Fox
Taylor
Ladapo
ASB
Cooper,
Joel Grant If fit
Riley unless better can be found
Ness


Dump
Wootton
Moore
Dyson
Sawyer
Ainsworth
Caravan

not sure on Anderson just yet, if he's cheap offer him a year see how it goes after a preseason.

Least that would  give us a decent base to start with but then

We have to Mould a new GK and Defence together and that wont be easy unless they all start together from day 1

what do you see in Riley that many dont Jethro out of interest?

He ain't as shit as Moore and tbh I'd only keep him if we couldn't find better.

Jethro wrote:

Angry wrote:

Jethro wrote:

Keep
Carey
Lameriras
Songo'o
Edwards
Sarcevic
Fox
Taylor
Ladapo
ASB
Cooper,
Joel Grant If fit
Riley unless better can be found
Ness


Dump
Wootton
Moore
Dyson
Sawyer
Ainsworth
Caravan

not sure on Anderson just yet, if he's cheap offer him a year see how it goes after a preseason.

Least that would  give us a decent base to start with but then

We have to Mould a new GK and Defence together and that wont be easy unless they all start together from day 1

what do you see in Riley that many dont Jethro out of interest?

He ain't as shit as Moore and tbh I'd only keep him if we couldn't find better.

Both are crap although i agree riley is slightly better than moore. Both should be shown the door though.

Keep
Carey
Lameriras
Letheren
Songo'o
Caravan
Edwards
Fox
Saywer
ASB
Cooper
Joel Grant
Conor Grant
Ness
Sarcevic
Taylor
Jephcott
Sangster
Battle

Im easy as to whether del keeps any of the other first/second year pros or not. Im sure a few of them will be released to make way for new 1st year pros

Dump
Wootton
Moore
Dyson
Ainsworth
Anderson
Riley
and the few first/second year pros.

I would say that we need to keep Carey however he isn't the player he was a couple of years ago and with that being said I wouldn't blow a major part of the budget to keep him IF we spent the money on an up and coming decent replacement. But we all know that won't happen. Next year will still require playing budget money to be diverted to the mankover which is obviously still the priority.

Jethro wrote:

Keep
Carey
Lameriras
Songo'o
Edwards
Sarcevic
Fox
Taylor
Ladapo
ASB
Cooper,
Joel Grant If fit
Riley unless better can be found
Ness


Dump
Wootton
Moore
Dyson
Sawyer
Ainsworth
Caravan

not sure on Anderson just yet, if he's cheap offer him a year see how it goes after a preseason.

Least that would  give us a decent base to start with but then

We have to Mould a new GK and Defence together and that wont be easy unless they all start together from day 1

Hard to disagree with that, Ainsworth had a trial with Livingston, maybe his agent is blocking any moves to lower league clubs.