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I and at at least two others had contacted Jon Back over Nool having access to club offices etc.  The response is fairly clear from Jon Back in that they are ok with it.

His reference to not having been passed information before related to me contacting Nicki Errington a month ago over same subject and asking her to pass it to Back or Starnes. Clearly she didnt bother no surprise there

"Thanks for your email Paul.

I apologise for any lack of response – I did not receive any previous query from yourself.

Plymouth Argyle – like most professional football clubs – uses a number of volunteers across a number of areas, & Ian is one of these.

I can assure you that no information is being ‘harvested’ from the club – indeed we are currently strengthening our data protection processes as we – along with every other organisation – are preparing for the implementation of GDPR.

I hope that this answers your query.

Regards

Jon

Jonathan BACK"

At least he responded and I know one of our own here also had acknowledgment of his as well.  Note the use of Nools forename its clear from his response that hes oblivious or just turns a blind eye. He didnt comment on the CCTV bit
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PostSubject: Re: Jon Backs response over Ian Newell lounging around in club offices   Jon Backs response over Ian Newell lounging around in club offices EmptyThu May 24, 2018 7:24 am

Really Harve?

You expect Nicki Errington to do your bidding for you?  Why on earth would she?

Contact the Club yourself if you have any complaints.

For instance...   Send Jon Back the photos that Newell posted, and ask him to explain how it is okay that Newell can display copies of Argyle's CCTV footage, etc?

...and anything else you can thing of?  

Let us know how you get on!
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And how he sent his bully boys over to the lyndhurst stand to pass on threats to the Argyle fans and the only way he knew where the fan sat was through the ST data, The fans name was on PCC planning objecting to Brent developments quoting he was a ST holder.

You can tell Jon Black that two data uses from Argyle on the same person by this person.
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Rickler wrote:
Really Harve?

You expect Nicki Errington to do your bidding for you?  Why on earth would she?

Contact the Club yourself if you have any complaints.

For instance...   Send Jon Back the photos that Newell posted, and ask him to explain how it is okay that Newell can display copies of Argyle's CCTV footage, etc?

...and anything else you can thing of?  

Let us know how you get on!

Hold on

I contacted Errington beacuse she is "office manager" and asked her to pass on to Back or Starnes if she couldnt deal with it. She did clearly neither.
At least 3 emails have landed at Back doors this last 72 hours probably 4 and thats only the ones I know about

He didnt comment on the CCTV so have responded to his email with my own a few minutes after posting on this thread asking just that
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PostSubject: Re: Jon Backs response over Ian Newell lounging around in club offices   Jon Backs response over Ian Newell lounging around in club offices EmptyThu May 24, 2018 7:54 am

Just in case anyone doubts anything I say this was my response.

Thank you for responding

Its absolutely clear you guys are totally oblivious as to what is going on and what HAS been going on for a long time

How Brent turns a blind eye to this odious thug and former football hooligan and even allows him to sit in the directors box says everything you need to know about the Chairman

When the hard proof lands next time (and it will because he cant help himself) I hope you remember this conversation. On an aside why is he releasing CCTV images from the club for that matter. You cannot be unaware.

No need to respond but again thanks for initially doing so.

Regards

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“...we are currently strengthening our data protection processes....”

i.e not letting Nool anywhere near it in the future. There is only so much Jon can say without Nool crying to Brent.
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as Peter Jones once said to me and another fellow ATDer after a brief conversation regarding Newell "You'll have to take it up with the organ grinder".
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The club have to decide whether having Nool as a volunteer is worth the reputational damage he does to PAFC.

This is a person whose judgement is so bad he thinks nothing of taking a photo on his phone of CCTV without permission. He then decides to post it on Twitter and JBSOTI to garner support in one of his never ending feuds.

Fu ck Argyle - his internet obsession comes first.

What will he do next?
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Jon Backs response over Ian Newell lounging around in club offices Newell10

here's his Nazi comment that he's deleted from Twatter
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Bang here we go......blocked attempt just arrived few minutes ago

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PostSubject: Re: Jon Backs response over Ian Newell lounging around in club offices   Jon Backs response over Ian Newell lounging around in club offices EmptyThu May 24, 2018 10:25 am

Frank Bullitt wrote:
The club have to decide whether having Nool as a volunteer is worth the reputational damage he does to PAFC.

This is a person whose judgement is so bad he thinks nothing of taking a photo on his phone of CCTV without permission. He then decides to post it on Twitter and JBSOTI to garner support in one of his never ending feuds.

Fu ck Argyle - his internet obsession comes first.

What will he do next?


Probably hack Harve's Gmail account to silence him emailing the club re his nefarious activities!


Oh, look! Look at Harve's latest post above! laugh
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PostSubject: Re: Jon Backs response over Ian Newell lounging around in club offices   Jon Backs response over Ian Newell lounging around in club offices EmptyThu May 24, 2018 10:48 am

P.O.I wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
The club have to decide whether having Nool as a volunteer is worth the reputational damage he does to PAFC.

This is a person whose judgement is so bad he thinks nothing of taking a photo on his phone of CCTV without permission. He then decides to post it on Twitter and JBSOTI to garner support in one of his never ending feuds.

Fu ck Argyle - his internet obsession comes first.

What will he do next?


Probably hack Harve's Gmail account to silence him emailing the club re his nefarious activities!


Oh, look! Look at Harve's latest post above! laugh

Another "coincidence" lol
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PostSubject: Re: Jon Backs response over Ian Newell lounging around in club offices   Jon Backs response over Ian Newell lounging around in club offices EmptyThu May 24, 2018 3:02 pm

Reduce the emails to facts you can prove. For example: Show the picture, and ask about it directly, and ask about it being published on an at the time open social media account and PASOTI.

Allowing emotion and opinion on individuals as per your comments about Ian being an odious thug in the response instantly reduces how serious your concern appears, and I've seen copious companies throw this type of correspondence away without a reply. By turning this away from personal, and towards factual you give them far less wiggle room in the way they respond to and handle the email.



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Sound advice.

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TJOA wrote:
Reduce the emails to facts you can prove. For example: Show the picture, and ask about it directly, and ask about it being published on an at the time open social media account and PASOTI.

Allowing emotion and opinion on individuals as per your comments about Ian being an odious thug in the response instantly reduces how serious your concern appears, and I've seen copious companies throw this type of correspondence away without a reply. By turning this away from personal, and towards factual you give them far less wiggle room in the way they respond to and handle the email.


This exactly.
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Yarp wise words from Toejam.
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Frank Bullitt wrote:
The club have to decide whether having Nool as a volunteer is worth the reputational damage he does to PAFC.

This is a person whose judgement is so bad he thinks nothing of taking a photo on his phone of CCTV without permission. He then decides to post it on Twitter and JBSOTI to garner support in one of his never ending feuds.

Fu ck Argyle - his internet obsession comes first.

What will he do next?

Agree totally, but when you say the "club" who exactly is that - Brent?
It really is hard to figure out exactly what 'benefits' Newell brings to a supposedly professional club and why he is tolerated, the fact that he is, speaks volumes about the core values of Akkeron Argo as a business. One can only dream that somebody takes control one day and wipes out the toxic culture that exists at the club.
Oh I forgot we on ATD are the vile and poisonous ones.
Brent's Argo, nothing but a pile of sht
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The reluctant one is the organ grinder. He knew that he needed the likes of the Windsor Boys and the wannabe culture they have created, from the outset.

Without them and other compliant employees, the natives would have become restless by now.
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PostSubject: Re: Jon Backs response over Ian Newell lounging around in club offices   Jon Backs response over Ian Newell lounging around in club offices EmptyFri May 25, 2018 6:38 am

Bit surprised that some criticised my 2nd email to Back and whilst I acknowledge the use of stronger emotions may not help the cause 95% of peoples interaction with Nool and his obnoxious behaviour relates to verbal abuse email hacking etc etc where as I have slightly stronger case having been hauled off an aircraft and arrested at Heathrow subsequently spending a night in the cells care of the fat cvnt and his feckin squeaky mate Jameson

As such the first email to the likes of Back will always be polite but subsequent ones slightly stronger.

This was the first one sent to Back via email. As I sent it I copied it via messenger to one of our own here on ATD

"Sirs

I would like to politely ask as to what official capacity Mr Ian Newell holds within the club....??

I reported previously his hanging around the club offices harvesting details of supporters liasing with the club to Mrs Nikki Errington suggesting she passed it to a high level inotherwards yourself or Martyn Starnes. Clearly it would appear she did neither.

One month has passed and once again Newell is photographed in the offices. He openly admits to having 450 supporters bank details on file which he claims are for legitimate purposes which I find astonishing and totally unacceptable

What he gets up to on the internet trolling people I do not care as thats his business entirely what I DO care about is him lounging around the club offices harvesting details of myself and my extended family. The club is entirely culpable in this matter

This is a polite email but the next one after the 25th May wont be if this access doesnt desist immediately.

Of course if he holds an official capacity then I apologise it goes without saying.

Have copied in someone who in addition is livid over this ludicrous ongoing situation

Best Regards

Paul Thomas

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Perfectly polite am sure most would agree
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harvetheslayer wrote:
Bit surprised that some criticised my 2nd email to Back and whilst I acknowledge the use of stronger emotions may not help the cause 95% of peoples interaction with Nool and his obnoxious behaviour relates to verbal abuse email hacking etc etc where as I have slightly stronger case having been hauled off an aircraft and arrested at Heathrow subsequently spending a night in the cells care of the fat cvnt and his feckin squeaky mate Jameson

As such the first email to the likes of Back will always be polite but subsequent ones slightly stronger.

This was the first one sent to Back via email. As I sent it I copied it via messenger to one of our own here on ATD

"Sirs

I would like to politely ask as to what official capacity Mr Ian Newell holds within the club....??

I reported previously his hanging around the club offices harvesting details of supporters liasing with the club to Mrs Nikki Errington suggesting she passed it to a high level inotherwards yourself or Martyn Starnes. Clearly it would appear she did neither.

One month has passed and once again Newell is photographed in the offices. He openly admits to having 450 supporters bank details on file which he claims are for legitimate purposes which I find astonishing and totally unacceptable

What he gets up to on the internet trolling people I do not care as thats his business entirely what I DO care about is him lounging around the club offices harvesting details of myself and my extended family. The club is entirely culpable in this matter

This is a polite email but the next one after the 25th May wont be if this access doesnt desist immediately.

Of course if he holds an official capacity then I apologise it goes without saying.

Have copied in someone who in addition is livid over this ludicrous ongoing situation

Best Regards

Paul Thomas

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Perfectly polite am sure most would agree


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Tringreen wrote:
The reluctant one is the organ grinder. He knew that he needed the likes of the Windsor Boys and the wannabe culture they have created, from the outset.

Without them and other compliant employees, the natives would have become restless by now.

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I think the questions can be boiled down to the following.

1. What role does Ian Newell have at the club?
2. Does this role necessate access to customers personal data?
3. Is Mr Newell subject to the clubs data protection policy
4. Ia the club aware that he has shared CCTV footage on social media?
5. How does the club propose to prevent similar breaches going forward especially in light of GDPR directives which come into force today?



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Hugh Watt wrote:
I think the questions can be boiled down to the following.

1. What role does Ian Newell have at the club?
2. Does this role necessate access to customers personal data?
3. Is Mr Newell subject to the clubs data protection policy
4. Ia the club aware that he has shared CCTV footage on social media?
5. How does the club propose to prevent similar breaches going forward especially in light of GDPR directives which come into force today?




Well one of you guys can ask just that am sure as all the email addresses/names are on the website
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I think you need to re read the constructive criticism Harve and don't take it so personally. Using any kind of insult or expletive would give the club an excuse to bin the email that is all. Fair play for doing it I don't think anyone would criticise you for that.
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I think the question of how Newell can have access to and post club cctv is a genuine one and the club should answer it.
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